i am going to turn the podium over now to brett gladstone. thank you. >> good evening, brett gladstone. >> and appellant gardener is correct that the rear would be eliminate and three or more bedrooms are lost and the renovated building would not reach the depth of the other buildings. which i will show you in a few minutes. not even the adjacent building oen the other side of our building is substantially deeper than our existing building today. i wanted to address the argument that the appellants have that their entrances are op 22nd street, and this is the best photo to do it. this is an a photo of exhibit d. and you will see the entrance steps -- thanks, darren, over here, are showing in the original photo of 1921. where these steps removed with permits? no. was the fence given an approval by the planning department to be higher than the 3 foot that you see here which is code complying for a front yard? no, and i will show you that in a few minutes. approval from the building department, but not from the planning department. why don't you

good evening, brett gladstone on behalf of the property owners. first of all, there's a change i wanted to announce. creating an a.d.u., we've discovered in the last few weeks, may trigger a new 311 notice and/or a variance, so tonight, we are asking that the same building be approved, but we're going to change the ground floor so there's no independent access to the street, and so the kitchen and the ground floor which is for judy, the grandmother, will not have -- well, it won't be a full kitchen. now, i'll let my client and judy speak for a minute. thank you. >> hi. >> you can pull it down. >> if you can pull it down. >> yeah. >> hello. my name is kelly iura, and jason and i are first-time homeowners who have lived in our home for 13 years. in that time, our family has grown to -- so we now have two kids, aged five and 11. sorry. we cannot afford to -- for a larger, new home. unlike many friends who have left town for larger homes, we are making an effort to stay in the city. our kids live in the first floor in small rooms that barely meet the

. >> brett gladstone. we're not going to take the full 15 minutes. >> you said that last time. >> no, i said i wasn't going to take the full 35 minutes. but first, we've heard that there's a derelict property owner, that he's the developer. and it's been 1.5 hours since we've heard from bill callahan. and i just want to let you know why the building has gone this way for song. >> the owner removed weight bearing walls. we tried to get access in the 1990's to -- the tenants removed weight bearing walls. we tried to get access in the 1990's, but we couldn't get insurance on the property anymore. they wouldn't -- the tenants wouldn't let us in, so we had to resort to the ellis act. and in doing so, we paid the tenants $13,614, which was twal to 8.1 years of rent. but also, i mean, my wife was diagnosed with a.l.s., and we were trying to create a home that we could live in. >> i'm going to ask john lum to point out and put the camera on the side windows that -- that the -- that the gentleman who spoke lives in