we weren't through brett kavanaugh's yearbook.ough every aspect of his life, yet joe biden gets to put everything in lock and key. it is just shameful. elizabeth: i think you meant that tom perez was unwittingly astute. >> yes, unwittingly, exactly. >> unwittingly. okay, brett kavanaugh was investigated by the fbi. joe biden demanded that brett kavanaugh be investigated by the fbi. as in any confirmmation there will be questions by senators from both parties but "the new york times" wrote the op-ed, editorial board said, biden, a probe of what happened with biden should be done by his own party, the dnc. so "the new york times" is really getting criticized saying really? you will get the dnc to appoint a non-partisan panel of investigators, and then decide, we're going to debunk this and dismiss tara reade coverage of tara reade debunk it? the media demanded full congressional investigation into kavanaugh but not biden's papers. you see what is happening here, right? >> absolutely. it was kavanaugh had to be investigated by the fb

character last year. >> we've heard a lot of charges and counter charges about brett kavanaugh, but as those who have known him best have attested he has been an exemplary public servant. >> gideon who said collins's speech defending due process felt like a betrayal of sexual assault survivors also tweeted the hashtag believe women on the 1-year anniversary of the brett kavanaugh hearing and get on the sex assault allegations against biden, getting the still silent. it may make room in the spotlight for further left candidates like kidman who railed against the state of party on twitter writing somehow we went for the most diverse field of presidential candidates in history to pick the lesser of two old white rapists. the senate races are close in at least 5 key states including north carolina, arizona, georgia, maine and colorado where republicans are defending their seats as incumbents. >> let's talk to one of those incumbents who will be defending his seat in november, republican senator from arizona, welcome back, good to have you. jackie was just reporting on the issue of the b

justice brett kavanaugh.eric swalwell joins us now and he serves on the intelligence committee. got a new look there, good morning. >> good morning. look forward to getting rid of this book. >> ed: let's get to the issue at hand. do you believe joe biden? >> i believe he has a right to defend himself but i believe the accuser has a right to make her claims and the vice president calling for an investigation into any records that may exist is the right thing to do. >> ed: but on the records issue, i thought he was not clear on that, so you say definitively the university of delaware, should they search -- they have joe biden's records from his senate days. should they search tara reid's name and find out whether they are records of a complaint, yes or no? >> yes. >> ed: see do you believe tara reid? >> she has a right to be heard and i'm not going to question her motives and the vice president didn't either. he didn't say she was a liar or that she's not the type and those are all things president trump said a

is the left giving biden the same treatment as brett kavanaugh? marsha blackburn is minutes away to share what she would like to hear from biden tomorrow morning. welcome to fox news at night. straight to chief breaking news correspondent tracy gallagher who has the latest on newly revealed documents in the michael flynn case. >> the codename for the fbi investigation was crossfire razor but because the fbi backs, quote, derogatory information meaning 0 evidence flynn was colluding with russia the fbi on january 4th, 2017, determined that flynn was, quote, no longer a viable candidate and crossfire razor was slated to be shut down but internal documents unsealed today indicate now disgraced fbi agent peter stxr ok said don't close razor and from the case manager the seventh floor was involved meeting fbi leadership. 3 months later he and another agent were sent by james comey to interview michael flynn at the white house. an interview that apparently was a setup with handwritten notes and emails suggesting senior fbi officials were determined to p

he is bringing up the brett kavanaugh investigation. christine blacey ford at the centerpiece of those accusations of now justice kavanaugh. christine fors coming up in the interview with joe biden. >> mr. vice president, as it per -- pertained to dr. ford, everyone wanted -- high level democrats said they believed it happened. you said, if someone like dr. ford were to come out, the essence of what she is saying has to be believed, has to be real. mr. biden: no, what i said -- >> why is it real for dr. ford and not tar ra reade? -- tara reade? mr. biden: i am not suggesting she had no right to come forward. i am not saying any woman -- she should come forward. they should somebody heard. it should be investigated. it should be investigated. if there's anything that makes -- that is consistent with what is being said and she makes the case or the case is made, it should be believed. but ultimately the truth matters. the truth matters. period. i fought my entire life to change the whole notion of cultural -- culture around sexual assault.

katie brought up brett kavanaugh. the difference between brett kavanaugh is we were asking the senate to make a decision in the senate was told they need to vote now. we need to have this vote by next week or republicans will crumble as mcconnell said. we never looked into it further. he was confirmed in a private vote by the senate. the american people will make this decision as they made the decision when trump at multiple sexual allegations against him in 2016. they will decide that again. >> i remember covering the supreme court of the brett kavanaugh, there were multiple investigations involving the senate judiciary committee investigators, fbi and others. when she showed up and made her allegations and they said we are voting today. >> it was a lengthy process, they had the confirmation hearing and another hearing because they wanted to go through everything again when brett cavanagh had to defend himself against these allegations, tara reade told 20 people, her mother and two friends about this, they remember h

this confirmation process has become a national disgrace after brett kavanaugh pleaded his case in with calendar as evidence. the left still had no interest in hearing cavanagh story the constitution gives the senate an important role. in the confirmation process but you have replaced advice and consent with search and destroy the hash tag i believe her even trending on twitter but when terrorist came forward with claims that democratic presidential nominee joe biden sexually assaulted her she says the same celebrities who supported ford did not do the same for her when coming out with her story but there is a measure of hypocrisy with the campaign saying and say it's not to say you know my social media has been hacked all my personal information has been dragged through every person that maybe has a you know a great against me an ex-boyfriend or an ex landlord or whatever it is has been able to have a platform rather than me. talking about things that have nothing to do with 1903 like you have in the whole thing with being called a russian agent that in particular. that incites people

brett kavanaugh was not a decision by the american people and is a lifetime appointing.oe biden has been vetted dozens of times. he ran for vice president. this is coming up now. people have to call that into consideration and they will. >> shannon: we have to remember a couple of things he here. right, to me, she has added to her story. she did not tell a different story. and my understanding is that she has added to it now. and there was this 1996 court document for all the vetting, no one founded until the newspaper found it this week. so there can be more threads to the story. you are right, the american people get to go to the ballot box and make a decision. this is not a court of law. that's where it will go. chris and katie, thank you very much. >> it will also be the death of the me too movement as we speak. >> i'm sure you are happy about that, katie. >> shannon: i'm sure is a young woman, she is not. thank you both, come back. two white men murdering a black man who was running in their southern georgia neighborhood have been denied bond. national outrage follo

remember the brett kavanaugh was when brett kavanaugh was a teenager this is different., we're seeing joe biden to your point has the power to release his senator work records of his employees at the university of delaware. the university of delaware though is also moving the goalpost byron, we will release two years after biden leaves public office. they changed it to public office. they will not release the record looks like. do the american people have a right to know had a sexual assault claim against them and sexual harrassment? tara reade may be more people have complaints. seven women stepped forward to accuse biden of misconduct. do voters have a right to look at this? >> of course they do and the question of access is biden's to decide, not university of delaware to decide. there is an interesting situation who would investigate? if you remember during the brett kavanaugh allegations, they were asking for the fbi to investigate the unfounded allegations against kavanaugh. in a review, op-ed, that created a lot of laughter, "the new york times" called for the dem

host: did you believe brett kavanaugh? caller: i had a hard time believing him. i listen to everything and the arguments. collegeck into the years and i saw how guys were kind of crazy, mixed up with different ideas, besides going into the real world, i could see that. i could see the craziness area i could see some being abnormal. caller: host: let's go to permit, west virginia. republican line. you are on. go ahead. they never come asked about that $1 billion he paid -- host: that doesn't apply to these allegations that have been recently laid against him. do you have a comment about that? caller: yeah. how come he won't let them have over -- to find out if that woman said that or not? host: we will go to detroit, michigan. caller: how are you doing? host: fine. joeer: my comment is that biden was the vice president for eight years. if it was a big issue, it would have come up then. i would take joe biden over a man who has 25 such allegations, rn stars, over 3000 times has lied to the people. why are we debating this? there is no comparison grid i would say to

and they will use it anyway they can against the president against brett kavanaugh, or however else they can. it's unfortunate but extremely hypocritical. >> shannon: you were with the president visiting arizona today and he had a lot of nice things to say about you. not so nice things to say about china. he continued to point to them as the source of this virus that has now killed hundreds of thousands of people around the world and second millions of people. but here is what the senate's top democrat had to say about the president constantly pointing the finger at china. here is chuck schumer. >> guess what, mr. president. even if it came from china, and even if it came from china only, why did you not do something about it? >> shannon: what about that? we have been told that the president's emphasis on china and the w.h.o. is nothing but a distraction from the failures of his own administration. >> it was an honor to host president trump for his first trip since what we have had in arizona, he has been cheerleading for americans in arizona like we saw today at honeywell, and they are

brett kavanaugh was treated one way and all over brett kavanaugh and they turned it into a kangaroo court. with the help of the democrats on the judiciary committee, and now there is nothing being said about tara reade. an interesting thing to a lot of women about this is that tara reade can say this is who i talk to. there is the recording of her mother calling into larry king. there are others that say yes, she told us about this. so she has that cooperating evidence that is necessary that christine blasey ford never had to. she doesn't tell you date, time, place, year. tara reade can give you the specifics and the details. so it would be important for the vice president to come out and first of all, tell the truth. and then secondly say fairness is important here. showing respect for women is important here. and there is no place for hypocrisy, and there is no place for a double standard. you know the democrats have a tendency to say, we are going to abide by rules when it helps us to achieve our goals, but we are going to get rid of all of those rules if they stand in our way, of reac

well, in the senate confirmation of brett kavanaugh in the mid-2,000, nothing was found either.i don't know if that's a really great argument, but politically, i wonder what the democrats think about how this reminds republicans about how they felt during that cavanaugh time. >> well, vice presidential vetting is much more intense than even supreme court justice vetting done by the senate. i think it's just the data points, there is an extremely thorough vat done by vice president biden, and nothing came out. the democrats aren't saying that you should trust joe biden, i certainly do not think the dnc should be the one investigating this, and neither does joe biden. he is asked where the secretary of the senate, the national archives, anyone who might have information to come forward with this, because he has said, it isn't true, and what democrats wanted with brett kavanaugh was a full investigation that they never got, and when brett kavanaugh was confronted with this, he said he didn't want investigation, biden has done the exact opposite, dana. >> dana: all right. matt, let

compare that not to brett kavanaugh, joe biden isn't running against brett kavanaugh but against donald trump. donald trump has over 2 dozen credible accusations of sexual assault. >> does tara reade have a right to be believed? does she have a right to be believed? >> that is fair. a number of people including a number of women jockeying for the number 2 spot on his ticket who said absolutely we believe these women, they are credible and so that is the standard that they created. a quick comment from you both. >> kevin won't and to when before he was advocating that women have the right to be believed. are you guilty until proven innocent until innocent until proven guilty? until the biden kim has one standard they are not credible on anything. shannon: important for people -- give that to the vice president. >> absolutely. we need to play from the same playbook, the vice president came forward, countered it forcefully, directly. we've not heard anything from the president with regards to the 2 dozen allegations made against him. we should play the same rules with each of these women.

after the hearings for brett kavanaugh for instance, we had the biggest spike in call volume we evererience in 48 hours part over three and a% increase in calls.ny hany of the people calling the hotline were divulging what had happened to them for the very first time. efor most of those collars it happened decades in the past. >> will hear from beverly prayed we havee a line if you are a sexual assault survivor it's (202)748-8002. beverly from california. >> caller: hi good morning. my comment is -- i wanted to say it sorta pissed me off when these women come out years and years later. i was 11 years old and assaulted and i immediately told my mom. the person that is sexually assaulted me was jailed. if i was 11 years old and i had common sense to tell someone, which was my mom, i don't know why an adult would wait years and years and come out. i just don't't believe the accusations against mr. biden. >> host: heather drevna, tell us in addition to the biden allegation tell us what are some of the reasons you hear from people on the phone that they don't, sometimes you say it's years

number two, he is serving for four years, whereas brett kavanaugh is serving a lifetime sentence as a court justice. there is clear differences between the two offices, the positions, and between the two ways of going about it. go ahead. >> harris: i was just going to say, why don't we call it a lifetime appointment? go ahead. >> richard: that's what i meant. there we go. >> guy: you believe tara reade is lying? do you believe dr. ford was telling the truth? if so, why, based on the evidence? >> richard: number one, i think based on the evidence we are seeing here we are talking about corroboration of the story. the associated press and "the new york times" and "the washington post" cannot corroborate her story, that speaks -- but there is no corroboration with "the new york times." there is no corroboration -- >> harris: so you don't believe dr. ford? >> richard: once again, like i said, what i always pulled for the doctorate ford case, and i will call for it again, it's her voice to be heard. dr. ford was heard in front of the american people. ms. reade has been heard, and ultimatel

i did not believe brett kavanaugh had nothing to do with the ford complaints.'ve known joe biden for 20 years. i've never seen him do anything untoward for the woman. i've never heard anything about him being inappropriate. that's my review of joe biden. ms. reade, she has a right to be heard and we'll see where this goes. >> sean: she has cooperation. >> if you believe ms. ford, why don't you -- >> sean: nobody in the kavanaugh case had the cooperation, the witnesses, the calls from the mother, and a report filed. well, tara reade has all that. >> that's my point. i'm just saying that joe biden -- i've never seen anything, believe that he'd do anything like this until you convinced me otherwise. but i think you should reveal the records. is there a double standard? of course. do most republicans understand what happened to brett kavanaugh was not about trying to right a wrong against dr. ford, it's about trying to keep a seat open so they can keep it open so they can beat trump. they were dumb enough to say that. i hope ms. reade gets treated better than the w

it was a grave miscarriage of justice with justice brett kavanaugh. there is no need to bring of the awful and false allegations that were made against justice kavanaugh. that was an embarrassment for the democrat party to have dragged the name of a respectable man through the mud. i will leave it at that. [indiscernible] there is word the decision to release michael: from prison -- michael cohen from prison has been reversed. is this intervening? ms. mcenany: no. i'm glad you brought up justice. there is a case of injustice that is yet to be brought up today. i would like to bring it up. that is the case of michael flynn. what we have learned from that should scare every american citizen. the fact you had jim comey admitting december last year that he violated a protocol by directing agents to confront flynn, something he would not have gotten away with under previous administrations. the fbi told flynn he didn't need a lawyer. agents he didn't think he was lying. and the information we have learned the last months and years culminates in the fact we

that's what the democrats said when brett kavanaugh was on the each of.he doesn't do that, he's obviously hiding something. they had operatives from the biden steam swirling around in the university of delaware files a while back it's like the sandy berger situation. the clinton guy went into the archives and put papers down his pants. now he's saying look into the senate records. the senate is saying they might not be here. i feel like the senate is going to protect itself. they have covered up a lot of sexual harassment claims. >> everybody is doing this. the files aren't here, they are over there. that group has been sucked in by another group. the reality is you can't find any record of the claim. this is bigger than politics. if this is true, then remember supposedly her mother called in to larry king. talking about a powerful senator. at that time he was in charge of the judiciary committee. she was coming in at a low-level entry grade. the dynamic there, if the story is true she was sent on a wild goose chase to give him a gym bag. they are alone i

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they treated brett kavanaugh incredibly unfairly.ter that if presumption of innocence was denied, he had to prove that he was not a predator. i don't know why they think of joe biden was accused that he should be held to a different standard. >> what democrats said at the time -- he had democrats slightly in different places. what democrats had at the time was investigate cavanaugh. what are they saying right now? investigating biden. biden is saying to the senate, release the records. when the senate came out and said they can't, biden responded immediately, let's find a way. i think that is one of the key differences. biden has been transparent. i think he was a little slow in responding personally, but once he started responding, he has been nothing but calling for transparency, whether it was sitting down for a pretty tough interview to addressing directly calling for an investigation, asking the senate to release all the records. and all while doing it in a way that is incredibly respectful to tara. >> bill: we need to see the d

i think it was a great miscarriage of justice, what happened with brett kavanaugh. there is no need for me to bring up the salacious, awful and verifiable he false information's made against justice kavanagh. but was an embarrassment for the democratic party to have sullied the name of a very respectable man like that. word that thee is decision to release michael prison to home confinement for covid-19 has been reserved. is the white house directly or indirectly intervening here? ms. mcenany: absolutely not, i would say. but i am glad you brought up justice. because, look, again, there is a case of injustice that is yet to be brought up today. i certainly would like to bring it up. the case of general michael flynn. what we have all learned from that should scare every american citizen. the fact that he had jim comey admitting in december of last year that he violated a protocol by directing agents to confront flynn, something that he would gottenote them "have away with under previous administrations." the f.b.i. told flynn he didn't need a lawyer when he came to

the truth, burden shifting which is classic strategy to shift the burden on to brett kavanaugh or otherlicans under any sort of accusation and that is simply a power grab. then he shifts the burden back to do process, to the constitutional standard. regardless of the truth of the matter, joe biden can be convicted of public opinion because he's proving he's not only not fully transparent but is hypocritical, doesn't want to believe all women when it works for him and when it doesn't work for him he is willing to be completely hypocritical so this shows absolutely he is unfit for office. >> the new york times, not a conservative publication, the editorial board has a piece out, talking about the fact that he has asked the senate secretary to release these things but also that is not enough. it doesn't go far enough. any serious inquiry must include the trove of records currently at the university of delaware. it will be time-consuming, probably thousands of pages of material but he wants to be the president, no memo in that record should go one searched. >> a good question. extraordinary

if they had a different standard for brett kavanaugh, many on the left did and in the media, they evowekavanaugh an apolo. chris: during the brett kavanaugh case, there were a lot of democrats, a lot of leading democrat women in congress and in public life who were saying women must be believed, women must be taken seriously. a lot of the same women say they stood with joe biden on these allegations before biden even denied the allegations on friday. i mean, isn't that hypocrisy? >> well, what many women on the democratic side were saying with brett kavanaugh at the time was they wan wanted a full fbi investigation and believing women means taking their claim seriously and investigating them and joe biden himself has come out and called for an investigation into tara reade's accusations. he has asked the senate secretary who would have any personnel records, any files like that to comb through their records. that's a level of transparency that not many politicians have had when they've been accused of sexual assault and so for someone who went through a very thorough vetting as the vice

at the end of the day, it came down to brett kavanaugh's temperament.hat when he completely lost it during those hearings and went after the clintons and become so airy and -- >> bret: but if the calendar for brett kavanaugh's high school is relevant to that, are at the university delaware documents relevant now? >> jessica: i lead with that. i think we should do a search with that, for tara reade's name through the university of delaware records. and i thought that they were very smart to bring that up, and clearly they caught joe biden back footed on that front. we want as much sunlight on this as possible. when i'm saying is that joe biden will be on the ballot in november against donald trump, a man credibly accused of sexual assault of dozens of women, who is keeping them under nda player os. his response to it was not a measured interview like joe biden gave. he came out and called those women liars. he called them a lot worse than that. >> melissa: but when you compare, jessica -- you see how when you compare who is the worst villain on the sexua

media handled brett kavanaugh.ow democrats talked about brett kavanaugh. they're not talking about donald trump because the reality is that they can't. because the list of accusers that this president has is very long, and you know, each individual accusation has a different set of facts, a different set of claims. in the case of joe biden, there is one, and that claim is now being explored and they're having to grapple with it, but you're right that, you know, this debate has become very muddled and devolved into lobbing charges back and forth. at the end of the day, i think americans who care deeply about this issue and care about women and harassment and changing that culture, at the end of the day, this is going to be a choice between joe biden and donald trump. there are two separate sets of facts there. voters will be able to make up their own minds about that. >> kasie, i think without the piece of paper showing up, but i am curious, how many democrats on capitol hill are empathetic, do you think, quietly, a

he said that taro reade is "far more compelling with respect to what they had against brett kavanaugh >> secretary mcenany: that is the president's assessment, i think it was a grave miscarriage of justice what happened with justice kavanaugh, there is no need for me to bring up some of the salacious awful and verifiably false allegations that were made against justice kavanaugh. that was an embarrassment for the democratic party to have dragged the name of a very respectable man through the mud like that. so i will leave it at that. >> reporter: i am asking this on behalf of our colleague. there is word that they could released michael cohen from prison that has been reversed. did the white house understand that indirectly being here? >> secretary mcenany: no, i am glad that you brought up justice, because, look, again a case of injustice that has yet to be brought up today. but i certainly would like to bring it up. and that is the case of general michael flynn. what we have all learned from that should scare every american citizen. the fact that you had jim comey admitting in decem

looking at inconsistencies in stories, that's fine, but if they had a different standard for brett kavanaughnd in the media, they owe kavanaugh an apology. >> chris: i want to pick up on that with you, marie, because during the brett kavanaugh case there were a lot of democrats, especially a lot of leading democratic women in congress and just in public life for saying women must believed, women must be taken seriously and a lot of those same women said that they stood with joe biden on these allegations before biden even deny the allegations on friday. i mean, isn't that hypocrisy? >> what many women on the democratic side were saying with brett kavanaugh at the time was that they wanted a full fbi investigation and that believing women means taking their claims seriously and investigating them and joe biden himself has come out uncalled for for an accusations. he has asked the senate secretary who would have any any files like that, to comb through the records. that's a level of transparency that not many politicians have had when they've been accused of sexual assault, and so for someone

ford and she had trouble past and brett kavanaugh had nothing to do with it.aulo jones him a long way from paula jones, remember, this is what you get when you take $100 bill to the trailer park. i believe every woman in the bill clinton case, paula jones, i did not believe that brett kavanaugh had anything to do with the complaints that were garbage. i've known joe biden for 20 years and have traveled the world with him. i've never seen him do anything untoward toward a woman, i've never heard anything about him being inappropriate. that is my view of joe biden. ms. reade, she has a right to be heard and we will see where this goes. >> sean: corroboration though. >> i know what you believe come out. >> sean: way, but nobody in the kavanaugh case had the corroboration, the call from the monitor, the report file. well, tara reade has all of th that. >> writes. i'm just saying joe biden, i've never seen anything and believed he would do anything like this until he convinced me otherwise but i think you should reveal the record. but there are double standards, of

she's asking them why is it real for doctor to accused brett kavanaugh but not for tara reid.iden is saying to the right to comported but the allegations are not true. it was a bizarre interview reaction coming in, he looks like he is bullying and he also brought up, you cannot bring up his papers that are held at the university of delaware because their speeches in there and he mentioned putin. it just derailed rapidly. your reaction. >> my reaction is you cannot work both sides of the semantic of using the word semantic, but that's a toolbox of a lawyer. and you cannot turn around after the again, broken record, hysterically screamed in everybody's faces that most people be believed and credited the harvard law graduates in congress saying she's to be believed, believed, not heard and now they're embarrassed because this is doubled back in their face like a tsunami in 18 well truck. it is what it is and they will have to deal with this. the point is, soever it is clear where i stand and everybody knows, everybody is entitled to due process 2800 day in court cross-examination

i've seen a lot of people trying to equate this with the brett kavanaugh case, and part of the difficultyg about this is that i, like i think most people that supported the me, too movement don't want to go through a point by point discussion of why one accuser seems more credible or why one case seems to have more backing than another. i will say that if christine bla blasey-ford and i'm not saying i don't believe to ara reade, if e ever tweeted out before going public, timing dot, dot, dot, wait for it, ticktock there would have been no kavanaugh hearings. again, let's remember that what christine blasey ford, the fbi interview witnesses that she had identified. they weren't saying everything she said should be taken on faith and should be taken on faith based on accounts in the media, they were asking for the fullest possible airing. >> this is a good discussion. i wish we had time to continue but there is more i want to ask but for now, thank you-all being with us. >>> up next, the rock 'n' roll tribute to those on the front lines. rock 'n' roll tribute to those on e thfront lines. i

we didn't hear a lot of that during the brett kavanaugh hearings, did we? mean, look, we started off today talking about the malfeasance in the fbi. i mean, i'm old enough to remember when the fbi was looking through high school year books and calendars and scrapbooks from a teenage brett kavanaugh to try to substantiate something that you could barely substantiate. so the reality is that what's good for the goose has to be good for the gander. joe biden said my word as a biden, well his word as a biden has never been very good and in this case he has remained suspiciously silent. so i think again, it begs the question, the democrats always like to say that women must be believed but the fine print is unless the person being accused is a candidate of the united states. they're talking about it's important to consider these things when talking about the highest court in the land and we must certainly have that same standard when talking about the highest office in the land, to be the leader of the free world. maria: it's unbelievable, given all of the conver

i think biden needs the same thing that brett kavanaugh needed. needs some sort of outside investigation but a credible entity. kavanaugh's was the fbi. we know a lot of the supporters of kavanaugh's accuser said the investigation was insufficient, but for the people who mattered in this case, which were persuadable republicans on the senate judiciary committee, it was enough to have the fbi look. i don't know whether it's the senate ethics committee, whether he has to find some other outside group, but he need somebody to say grace over this and say, "we look, here's what we found." >> melissa: sorry, forgive me, they are trying to talk to me in my ear and all it's doing is cutting you out, and i can't hear what they are saying. that's why i'm making sort of crazy faces here. it's the fun of all of us doing all these shows remotely! >> [laughs] >> melissa: chris stirewalt, we are trying to pull off magic from our living rooms. what can we say? it's a lot of fun. chris stirewalt, thank you so much. it sounds like a tough situation for joe biden. w

real conc n concerneconcer concerns about political commentators going on networks and calling brett kavanaughia r a rapist. respected columnists calling him a serial sexual predator. there didn't seem to be the pushback that there should have been from network executives, from opinion page editors. during kavanaugh, and sometimes when you have scandal after scandal after scandal pile on top of each other, the journalistic standard is just brushed aside and ignored. it is run over. >> right. >> we can look back, and i hope somebody at a journalism school looks back at what happened during the kavanaugh hearings and the low standards that a lot of journalists held, themselves, too, and editors held themselves to, and what was published in a rush while the hearings were going on. there's reason why the fbi needed more time to investigate. quite frankly, a lot of journalists put a lot of garbage out there. >> yeah. >> we were very strong about this, obviously. honestly, very few others were. as for the allegations by tara reade, who briefly worked add e staff assistant in biden's office, she told

he would compare that to not to brett kavanaugh, joe biden is not running against brett kavanaugh, butald trump. and he has over two dozen credible -- >> shannon: but that is not the same, does tara reade have a right to be believed? that is fair. there were a number of people and women who were jockeying for the number two spot on his ticket who said, absolutely we believe these women there credible. so that is the standard they created. quick comment, and then we have to go. >> kevin won't answer the question, because now he is saying that women just have the right to be heard when before he was advocating and joe biden was too, that they have the right to be believed. are you innocent until proven guilty, and until they have one standard, than they are not credible on anything. >> shannon: and its people arguing for due process for the vice president, kevin. >> we need to play from the same playbook, the vice president came forward and acknowledge this accusation. countered it forcefully and directly. we have not heard anything from the president with regards to the two dozens of al

people in the senate including many democrats weighed in on that and the democrats said that brett kavanaugh must be held to a certain standard but now when former vice president joe biden is facing allegations from a former senate staffer who worked for him, he has denied it, but many of the democrats who said one thing about brett kavanaugh have set another thing about joe biden and i wonder how that sits with you. >> hypocrisy is not unusual in washington, but this is jaw-dropping hypocrisy. there was no corroborating evidence in the case against justice kavanaugh, and here, you not only have an accuser, but corroborating evidence. and so it's interesting to watch the democrats engage in jaw-dropping hypocrisy trying to defend the former vice president with less evidence by far not nothing happened then in the kavanaugh case. >> dana: i know you have seen hypocrisy before but jaw-dropping is pretty strong language coming from mitch mcconnell. thank you so much, sir. have a good afternoon. and a new chapter when the battle between michigan's governor and people protesting her stay home ord