i say -- neil: brett larson? you're brett larson! >> where is my iphone 13?of a key note presentation with their new products -- neil: i hate it when they do that. and by the way, when they say come back, never ready. >> it's never ready. why is this so delayed? the ipads are delayed, the apple watch, so far i've not heard of any shipping delays with the apple watch. this is going to be a problem that's going to carry -- neil: but there's a demand there. the enviable position of apple, there's a demand for the product, but, of course, there'll be less of a demand and maybe some anger if there's significant delays getting stuff to people, right? >> right. and we are also inching our way towards january which is the consumer electronics show when we expect the whole horse and pony show of all the new products. so it's going to be interesting because all these manufacturers, lg, panasonic, sanyo, sony, all of them are going to have to answer the question these new tvs, these new set-top boxes, all this stuff is great, is any of this actually going to be in the r