the debt crisis, the -- going back to the breakdown of bretton woods but particularly in the 1980s to 2000's the period of enormous increases of inequality of the world. so we think we demonstrate that there is a very close relationship between inequality and financial events and, therefore, essentially with the phenomenon that led up to this great financial crackup in 2007 and 2008. >> dr. galbraith, when someone says free trade, what do you think about? >> i think it's an illusion of trade in the modern world -- it is a matter of transnational networks of production. they are managed there is really no such thing as free trade. if there were it would have been disrupted long ago by the emergence of modern china. >> we turn to the gold standard. >> another illusion. gold is an archaic symbol of monetary of world. it's impractical in the modern world. >> and the fed. >> i think we need a functioning federal reserve. i spent much of my career in congress on the oversight of the federal reserve. the real challenge is there is to have a federal reserve that serves the country, and it is