and then you had the black panther trial with kingman brewster. very unfortunate things that he said that inflamed, got him on enemies list among other things. >> we don't want that to come back, that stuff. no violence. >> thank you for coming and talking. i was curious if in your research at all you found how buckley's faith interacted with politics? how he rationalized conservativism with the deep christian sentiments, love thy neighbor, care for poor, care for disabled? i was curious what you found. >> i mentioned for the reason that he drew ethical distinctions, okay, all the time. he would say we believe in tolerance and everyone is free to practice anything they want in this country or not but don't tell me our country was founded by all religious traditions equally. they're not. i come from the true faith which is to believe there is group of undesirables among human beings, right? or that animals have the same rights as people. you want to say what you want but i believe in a faith that says that god created man in his image. gave man the