the brexit, brexit that happthe brexit are unhappy >> the brexit, brexit that happthe brexit thatre brexit, brexit that happthe brexit that happened. with the brexit that happened. they brexit they would have loved the brexit that proposed. they would have loved the brexit that were sed. they would have loved the brexit that were other brexit's. >> there were other brexit's. >> there were other brexit's. >> there's brexit in >> yes there's brexit in people's . it's like you're people's minds. it's like you're asking part it's asking people what part of it's like brexit, brexit like what part of brexit, brexit do you like. >> can i tell can i maybe they just missing us. that just missing us. is that possible. europe are just possible. maybe europe are just going sad. also going oh it's so sad. but also why this young people 18 to why is this young people 18 to 30 olds. about everyone 30 year olds. how about everyone else. the sensible people who >> no, the sensible people who would want me. >> me? i would >> are you kidding me? i would want but i would want me. want you, but i would

the whole point of brexit.i said many times during the 2016 campaign, was to free ourselves from the protectionist racket thatis from the protectionist racket that is the european union . the that is the european union. the eu prohibits its members from negotiating its own trade deals . negotiating its own trade deals. for years this closed us off from likes of australia, from the likes of australia, canada , japan even canada, japan and even the united since leaving the united states. since leaving the eu, we have successfully negotiated a free trade agreement with australia and new zealand and japan. we're also in discussions with india and the gulf cooperation council for ftas and improvements with canada, mexico, switzerland and israel. none of which would have been possible from within the eu. we've also joined the trans—pacific partnership and that's passed law. this that's now passed into law. this trading bloc is projected to make up significantly more of global gdp than the eu over the coming decades ,

i don't think we should overrate brexit as a cause | should overrate brexit as a cause of these issuesthey are seeing these spikes and shortages as well. something has gone wrong with the global supply chain where we get a lot of these medicines often quite cheaply from weather manufactured in bulk in asia. lead times are much longer than they used to be. that means if there is a shortage come you cannot order new supplies as quickly as you could before some of the disruptions associated with covid and the other factors that you listed. so step one really needs to be doing as much as it is possible, and i recognise that civil servants in the department of health have been trying hard for years to get earlier notifications from companies of one there will be a shortage. sometimes that seems to happen. 0thertimes a shortage. sometimes that seems to happen. other times there doesn't seem to be that level of notification in time to try it and seriously explore alternatives, and thatis seriously explore alternatives, and that is a very important domestic priority. where brexit really comes

the whole point of brexit.i said many times during the 2016 campaign, was to free ourselves from the protectionist racket thatis from the protectionist racket that is the european union . the that is the european union. the eu prohibits its members from negotiating its own trade deals . negotiating its own trade deals. for years this closed us off from likes of australia, from the likes of australia, canada , japan even canada, japan and even the united since leaving the united states. since leaving the eu, we have successfully negotiated a free trade agreement with australia and new zealand and japan. we're also in discussions with india and the gulf cooperation council for ftas and improvements with canada, mexico, switzerland and israel. none of which would have been possible from within the eu. we've also joined the trans—pacific partnership and that's passed law. this that's now passed into law. this trading bloc is projected to make up significantly more of global gdp than the eu over the coming decades ,

and agitator for, getting millions of votes for ukip , brexit party, etc. ukip, brexit party, etc.ether part of the problem is the conservative government had to accept brexit ultimately, but never really believed in it. >> well, i think the problem was across the whole parliament, you know, 70% of mps back remain and, and, and the country didn't , and i think to be fair to theresa may, she did believe in trying to deliver on it. she just didn't really know what it meant. and she wasn't able to persuade anybody that what she ended up thinking it meant was what it ought to mean. and by then, everybody had sort of dug themselves into their trenches, themselves into their trenches, the conservative party is a fractious beast, as you know, andifs fractious beast, as you know, and it's got many factions within it, because we have this first past the post system. it's a massive coalition of different things, but i think it was there to be led. >> they called it a broad church. yes. and i now say it's a broad church with no religion. >> well, that may be the case. >> well, that may be the

the brexit opportuities minister explaining why he had delayed bringing in post—brexit checks here ineen an act of self harm if we had gone ahead with it. it would have increased cost for people. well, that "act of self harm" was introduced here today. the government puts the total costs of those checks at around £330 million extra a year, but some trade groups reckon more like £2—3 billion. who's right? we'll talk live to the national farmers union and to this florist, who heads up the british florists association. she says checks could cost her members £75,000 each a year. and this man was given an ultimatum — either pay thousands of pounds or explicit photos of him would be shared on social media. it's called sextortion, and now, the national crime agency is warning schools that pupils are falling victim. good evening. there is much we don't know yet about what happened in the sword attack in hainault in north east london at around seven o'clock this morning. who was wielding the weapon and why? what we do know is over a period of around 20 minutes, a man ran amok with a sword or m

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brexit was wasn't it? come on. brexit was never going to do anything about it. do with it.t got the two things, got completely mixed up. >> principle >> well, are you in principle you control of your you have control of your borders? haven't borders? we just haven't capitalised have we? capitalised on that have we? >> i think that's >> yeah. well i think that's right. do you not it was right. do you not think it was about immigration then, nicolas right. do you not think it was athink mmigration then, nicolas right. do you not think it was athink nthinkition then, nicolas right. do you not think it was athink nthink the then, nicolas right. do you not think it was athink nthink the public nicolas i think i think the public thought was about immigration thought it was about immigration and made and the politicians made them think about immigration. think it was about immigration. but all but in the end, it wasn't all it's i'm sorry, this is gb news i know, and i'm allowed to say it's a broad church, nicolas. it's broad church, right? it's a broad church, right? >> very pries

brexit was wasn't it? come on. brexit was never going to do anything about it. do with it.t got the two things, got completely mixed up. >> principle >> well, are you in principle you control of your you have control of your borders? haven't borders? we just haven't capitalised have we? capitalised on that have we? >> i think that's >> yeah. well i think that's right. do you not it was right. do you not think it was about immigration then, nicolas right. do you not think it was athink mmigration then, nicolas right. do you not think it was athink nthinkition then, nicolas right. do you not think it was athink nthink the then, nicolas right. do you not think it was athink nthink the public nicolas i think i think the public thought was about immigration thought it was about immigration and made and the politicians made them think about immigration. think it was about immigration. but all but in the end, it wasn't all it's i'm sorry, this is gb news i know, and i'm allowed to say it's a broad church, nicolas. it's broad church, right? it's a broad church, right? >> very pries

in march 2018, and that's when they started saying let's investigate whether russia interfered in brexit and how it happened, and so far no reasoned answers, how it happened, that is, they said on the official levels in... in the report of the parliamentary intelligence committee in july 20th, the so -called russian report, that russia is trying through its oligarchs to influence britain, to change public opinion, within britain it was related to the scottish independence referendum in 14 year, here is an interesting point, why scotland, because it is on the territory of scotland that nuclear weapons are located. great britain, and the same was said there about the parliamentary elections in the 17th year, that is , the main challenge for the british is how reduce this impact, ie. it is very difficult for a democratic country like britain to legally block a site or a social network, and the russians also bought part of the media, although the same rasha today and sputnik, well, sputnik did not work there for a long time, but rasha today worked until the full-scale invasion of 22- th year

now he's a brexiteer. back in 2016, he's a brexiteer.opean union. he certainly voted to leave the european union and has made much of that since then. for many, i think the idea of that a court in strasbourg can restrict what our own parliament orders to happen using uk law does go against the idea of that vote back in 2016, for some brexiteers leaving the echr, the strasbourg court, the foreign court described by the pm is a bit of tidying up loose ends from the brexit process. those on the left of the tory party would definitely disagree with that. with that, and in fact, many or some might resign from the were to happen. the cabinet were this to happen. and that's why he's showing a bit of leg to sun voters. and i went to number 10 today for gb news understand what he meant news to understand what he meant by that. they said that he's saying it came to it, if saying that if it came to it, if it came to it, and the echr was the block on the rwanda flights taking off after the after the middle april, we would middle of april, we would c

brexit wasn't even a coherent political project.s a response by david cameron to a failure to agree about the future of britain, in europe or outside europe, the inability of the government to govern i, i, i often, i often find myself, listening to liz because i think she does try to make an argument for a different kind of conservatism. but also then wonder about what? about the detail. she says she likes singapore on steroids. i'd love britain to be like singapore . britain to be like singapore. lee kuan yew, the great leader who singapore to its who took singapore to its current situation. he was the president of the socialist international, so i think sometimes liz needs to know her own history. >> well, she's saying we should be socialist country and be a socialist country and singapore's point singapore's great strength point should for china. should be an entrepot for china. >> point she did make, >> the one point she did make, john, that was logical, i think, in interview, i think in that interview, and i think unarguable, t

brexit remains an issue union. brexit remains an issue which divides the country .try. some celebrated our reclaimed sovereignty , the trade deals, no sovereignty, the trade deals, no payments to the bloc and national self—determination, whilst others mourn the cultural and economic impact of our divorce from the continent. so has brexit been a triumph or a disaster? we may never know the answer, but to find out how we got here, who better to speak to than my mark meets guest this evening, sunday times political journalist and a man who has plotted our brexit journey. fastidious lee across three best selling volumes. the latest of which no way out. from the backstop to boris, is out now. tim shipman welcome to mark dolan. tonight we'll kick off with the beginning of this latest tome. the year is 2017. theresa may is the prime minister is she the right person to get brexit across the line ? to get brexit across the line? >> i think the ultimate conclusion of having written about this for six years and having endured theresa may's premiership for twice as long as she

this is part of the much delayed official brexit - long? long? this is part of the much - delayed official brexit border which was inevitable after the government's rather distant deal with the eu prioritising freedom to regulate ourselves, but the result means different regulations mean you get checks both ways. we have had checks for uk exporters going into europe very few ways and this is the reverse, eu imports into great women —— great britain in particular. it is called the common user charge, £29 for many different types of medium and high risk foodstuffs like yoghurt, salami sausages as you mentioned, and up to five different items in one consignment, a lorry load or a pallet loads, that is how you would get to £145, the figure used by trade bodies tonight who are unhappy, they say it could contribute to rising food prices and lower availability. probably the biggest thing is it is an inconvenience for a lorry loads and where it may affect things is for smallerjellies, smaller businesses, because they pay the same flat charge. —— is

we've had one on brexit, had one on av on brexit, we've had one on av reform, the election reform, changingn system. i think it would be very plausible, reasonable for rishi sunak come say, look, sunak to come out and say, look, enough enough on this enough is enough on this question we control our question. we either control our own we don't. so what own borders or we don't. so what i'm going to do is, is take this to the british people and i'm going if you vote for me going to say, if you vote for me in the conservatives, i understand many out understand why many people out there be there would perhaps be distrustful pledge. but distrustful of that pledge. but if me within a if you vote for me within a week, will bring forward week, i will bring forward legislation to give you a referendum on leaving the echr and regaining control of your borders. personally, i think that would be very popular among the voters. he needs to win back. >> would you like to see that, judith? >> judnh? >>i judnh? >> i think that certain things i do agree that certain things have to go to a referendum because t

yeah it says brexit has exacerbated this. this is not a brexit problem. think it's brexit problem. is a global problem. the united states having states of america is having problems the medicines problems accessing the medicines it needs. and actually in in the eu . the netherlands has had eu. the netherlands has had severe drug shortages for years . severe drug shortages for years. so i don't think it's right. >> why is there a worldwide brexit? >> why is there a world? >> why is there a world? >> i think it is because we have because the war in ukraine, because of the war in ukraine, plus the covid pandemic, obviously saw the global obviously we saw the global supply chains for everything, for everything . just, for example, everything. just, you know, you couldn't get hold of anything, could you? everything a halt everything just ground to a halt . the problems in . there's all the problems in with houses shipping with the houses and the shipping channels lot of channels. there are a lot of global at moment that global issues at the moment that are to this. are contributing to t

he's someone who would reverse brexit.eone who campaigned for a second. >> are you saying constitutionally he'd reverse brexit by rejoining the eu? >> listen, i would not rule it out because he's someone who campaigned a second campaigned for a second referendum and all the indications from his shadow cabinet indeed and cabinet and indeed himself and his unguarded moments, that his unguarded moments, so that he closer alignment he does want closer alignment with european union, he with the european union, he would was achieved in would undo what was achieved in 2017. in that historic vote, he would oversee increased migration, and he would not apologise or try to hide it. >> well, i must say that was a very spin witted suella braverman. it really was. i'm joined down the line from london by gb news senior political commentator nigel nelson. nigel your reaction to the police ? your reaction to the police? three mayors in brussels attempting to close down this meeting and, if i may, the response of a couple of labour frontbe

even brexit. i'm joined in our studio by our political editor , christopher political editor, christopher hope, and also the former labour minister, bill rammell. hope, and also the former labour minister, bill rammell . welcome minister, bill rammell. welcome to the show, gents. let's start with you, chris, and let's start with you, chris, and let's start with rwanda, because of course, we joshing about the fact we were joshing about the fact you had a bet with the prime minister a flight wouldn't minister that a flight wouldn't take spring. a single take off. this spring. a single pint of beer seems you've pint of beer seems like you've won pint . won a pint. >> yes, if it's a may, the second which, of second election. which, of course , when we struck that bet course, when we struck that bet back that was back in september, that was going case. now, i was going to be the case. now, i was in parliament last night for this between the house this ping pong between the house of commons and house lo

it's now got brexit. meant to be< post brexit. be considering role the considering what the role of the uk and this actually uk is, and this report actually calls humility for less calls for humility for less consideration of britain as being a powerful nation. in fact , it doesn't want britain to consider itself on its own role in terms of national sovereignty at all. it says that we should have more international role with ngos , go for group work. with ngos, go for group work. i mean, i can't begin to tell you how disastrous i consider this to be at a time in which i would want the foreign office to be taking itself seriously and all i'm saying is, is that when i, i mean, i'm in the house of lords and there is nothing about the furnishings of house furnishings of the house of lords that modest humble. lords that are modest or humble. and that i walk and you could say that i walk around thinking, oh, i must be a baroness, because i'm here in this historic actually , it gives this historic actually, it gives me a sense of the tra

brexit policy where labour theoretically, policy? brexit policy where laqur theoretically, policy?olicy where labi find theoretically, policy? brexit policy where labi find itieoretically, policy? brexit policy where labi find it bizarreally, policy? brexit policy where labi find it bizarre that anyone >> i find it bizarre that anyone could think that labour is more brexity than the tories. so yes, i mean, i think, i think what's happenedis i mean, i think, i think what's happened is we're in a time for change thing here, regardless of anything else that was going change thing here, regardless of anyears| else that was going change thing here, regardless of anyears of.se that was going change thing here, regardless of anyears of margaret as going change thing here, regardless of anyears of margaret thatcher, 13 years of margaret thatcher, 13 years of margaret thatcher, 13 years of new labour, after 14 years of this government, time for a change and also the kind of way that politic has been destabilised by things like brexit. brexit costs two tory prime ministers. we've got two who

labour on defence, tax, migration , even brexit. the migration, even brexit. the telegraph has. rayner faces new homes, tax questions. the guardian has brexit blamed as uk drug shortages put lives at risk and the times is going with hopes of rate cuts suffer blow inews has israel will defy plea for restraint and strike iran? cameron reveals. and finally, the sun has american idol harry. and those were your front pages. okay, kicking off the in—depth look at the front pages, the sun, louis the sun, royal. royal files his new country royal, meaning prince harry. and it says american idol harry because they don't think he does anything. he does a lot of stuff. he spends all day long complaining about his. >> not what that means. >> that's not what that means. >> that's not what that means. >> it means. idol >> that's what it means. idol means he's not doing. >> they isn't it a play on >> they mean, isn't it a play on the show? american idol? >> yeah, play on the >> yeah, it's a play on the show. idol means he's not show. but idol means he's not doing anything. >> that's true. >> we

we all stand brexit. say for stand for brexit.'s okay to have lots of different groupings. we all know the real problem, which threat of problem, which is the threat of laboun problem, which is the threat of labour. think we're all labour. i think we're all committed fighting them. and committed to fighting them. and but and it's not just about uniting the right. we're in more agreement than we are with the other wing of party. but other wing of our party. but even i think, all recognise even they i think, all recognise we have a genuine problem which is not the fact that we're losing voters to labour. it's the problem is we're losing voters reform the stay voters to reform and to the stay at the people who don't at home. the people who don't want vote for anybody. and want to vote for anybody. and we're campaigning we we're all out campaigning and we all the whole time all get this. the whole time on the doorstep our high the doorstep and in our high streets, people i, streets, which is people say i, they you, the they might say,

more on brexit than are trusted. more on brexit than the tories. keir starmer was the architect of the second referendum plan as as corbyn standing against me, he stood in harrogate and wanted a second referendum in a brexit seat. >> yeah, yeah, but but how did the tories lose the faith and the tories lose the faith and the trust of the people on an issue? >> i mean, i think we need a major cabinet reshuffle, get some, you know, some strength in there, some experience, some brexiteers in there, some of them. andrea are you applying? >> you're available. >> you're available. >> look, i'm not a person that i'm too outspoken. i would never get chosen . but we need some get chosen. but we need some real experience in there and set our stall out. show the conservatives uniting into this election and actually be more conservative. we need to be tough on crime. we need to be low tax, small state conservatives kerb the spending and we can't have this two tier. >> but why? why do people trust starmer on on brexit? he has already said he would be thinking ab

it suggests that on defence, taxation, migration and brexit. think about those four, because they're all areas that historically would have been stronger for conservatives and for the labour party in all four of those areas. we find labour are now more trusted. keir starmer's labour party , keir starmer's labour party, more trusted than rishi sunak's conservative, lives now. the one thing we can also say through this and much other polling, is there is no great enthusiasm for keir starmer, no great love of keir starmer, no great love of keir starmer, no great love of keir starmer. keir starmer, no great love of keir starmer . this is not 1997, keir starmer. this is not 1997, it's not tony blair riding in on a white horse. and things can only get better. and i do wonder sometimes whether a lot of the numbers in the labour lead are just saying we can't bear the tories, we feel let down by them. we're going to go for labour with perhaps not being that sincere about it. now history suggests that things can turn around . it suggests that as turn aro

the uk government, inducing brexit, _ do so. the uk government, inducing brexit, chose - do so. do so. the uk government, i inducing brexit, chose to go it alone on migration. what they have seen since then is an increase in people seeking asylum in their country. their policies are there policies. my objective as minister of justice is to ensure that we have a structure and a migration system that works. that is why i will be bringing forward emergency legislation this week to ensure that we have as effective a returns policy as possible. but have as effective a returns policy as possible.- have as effective a returns policy as possible. but a uk government _ policy as possible. but a uk government source - policy as possible. but a uk government source said - policy as possible. but a uk| government source said that until the eu except the return to france are people that cross the channel, he won't be taking returns from ireland. a planned meeting between the home secretary and ms mcentee have been proposed. the secretary and ms mcentee have been proposed-— been proposed. the

brexit policy where labour theoretically, policy? brexit policy where laqur theoretically, policy?olicy where labi find theoretically, policy? brexit policy where labi find itieoretically, policy? brexit policy where labi find it bizarreally, policy? brexit policy where labi find it bizarre that anyone >> i find it bizarre that anyone could think that labour is more brexity than the tories. so yes, i mean, i think, i think what's happenedis i mean, i think, i think what's happened is we're in a time for change thing here, regardless of anything else that was going change thing here, regardless of anyears| else that was going change thing here, regardless of anyears of.se that was going change thing here, regardless of anyears of margaret as going change thing here, regardless of anyears of margaret thatcher, 13 years of margaret thatcher, 13 years of margaret thatcher, 13 years of new labour, after 14 years of this government, time for a change and also the kind of way that politic has been destabilised by things like brexit. brexit costs two tory prime ministers. we've got two who

, you'll go told us vote brexit, you'll go to the back of the queue.e been there last night to see cameron eating humble pie. well i'm joined down the line by katie mcfarland, press ardent trump's, of course, first deputy national security adviser and also somebody who held security posts in the nixon , ford and reagan administrations. who better who better than a i hate to call you a veteran, but i'm going to have to call you a republican veteran and an observer of these things. isn't it funny? all these people , katie, around the world, who've been rude , vile about who've been rude, vile about donald trump in the end , they donald trump in the end, they all have to come and break bread, don't they ? bread, don't they? >> well, not only break bread, but they've got to listen to what he's saying. and when donald trump is talking about where he's talking about the middle he's middle east, whether he's talking about china or the ukraine got to take ukraine war, they've got to take him seriously. and the great thing donald trump, which thing about donald

well, whilst i was minister brexit, was minister for brexit, opportunities it. opportunities, i stoppedt for some reason the government wants more wants to make food more expensive. mad. yes, yes. >> well, jacob, have to say >> well, jacob, i have to say i agree with that completely and utterly. french utterly. and even if the french are making things tough for us, we to behave. that's we don't need to behave. that's right. recognise the >> we should recognise the virtues trade, and we virtues of free trade, and we should it easier to get should make it easier to get goods not goods from other countries, not harder the eu. harder to get them from the eu. >> , it's the end of my >> well, it's the end of my working day and in fact working week at gb news. back with week here at gb news. back with you on monday. let's you at 7:00 on monday. let's have a look with aidan mcgivern at the weather. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hello again! it's a wet night for many of us with spells of rain crossing the country, staying cold in the north,

just like brexit.ng to ask you. finally, as we approach this historic vote, do you think your beer is safe? do you think these flights will ever get off the ground ? will ever get off the ground? >> i think they will get off the ground, martin. i think it will happen. probably in mid to late july. the pm that said. then he wanted a regular rhythm of flights. he wants united . stop flights. he wants united. stop talking about it at the top of the hour on gb news make it a regular part of the way the government does its business every week or so, hundreds of people arriving here illegally are sent to rwanda where they're processed, and the hope is that will break this business model and stop these people sending people across the channel from france . that's the hope. but i'm france. that's the hope. but i'm not sure. only a few flights is a regular rhythm. so therefore i think the election planning for viewers and listeners might be to plan for an election probably in november time, because i think he w

i brexit could have way. i mean brexit could have all sorts of advantages and disadvantages. but nick, isn't it case most of the it the case that most of the disadvantages come about because we've kind of we've approached this as kind of damage than damage limitation, rather than going look, this going in and saying, look, this is great opportunity. going in and saying, look, this is yeah, opportunity. going in and saying, look, this is yeah, that's'tunity. going in and saying, look, this is yeah, that's the ty. going in and saying, look, this is yeah, that's the tragedy of >> yeah, that's the tragedy of brexit. farage and brexit. i mean, farage and people to get it. people did great work to get it. but then if you were to be but then if you were going to be a accusation would a bit if the accusation would be, do enough to then be, did we do enough to then make happen make it actually happen once, once we weren't just once we once we weren't just winning, it not enough. winning, it was not enough. yeah. about the yeah. and it's all about the benefits of brexit, which haven't

the brexit deal.order. so the simple fact is they have no idea who is coming from northern ireland into ireland now , the justice ireland now, the justice secretary that's quoted this figure of 80% and truthfully , figure of 80% and truthfully, they don't know this. they cannot know this because these people coming across at this non border are not monitored . so border are not monitored. so i think in many ways it suits the irish government to say, well, look this is all the fault of the british and their rwanda plan. not our fault because of course the irish government are having a real struggle now with pubuc having a real struggle now with public sentiment. the numbers of people arriving in ireland going up. there's been protests, there's the housing crisis , etc. there's the housing crisis, etc. it's very difficult. this is a convenient way for them to pass the buck number 10 this lunchtime, saying, let's not jump lunchtime, saying, let's not jump to any conclusions, but i have to say this is qui

. don't think it's made brexit.e any difference our any great difference to our standing, outside standing, most people outside this country think much this country don't think much about or of it. we about it or of it. we have a hugely inflated idea of how important are , and it can't important we are, and it can't be bad if we begin to be bad if we if we begin to shake this off and realise how we're not, and how we need to fix the things that we don't we're not, and how we need to fix �*it'sthings that we don't we're not, and how we need to fix �*it's daftis that we don't we're not, and how we need to fix �*it's daft to hat we don't we're not, and how we need to fix �*it's daft to say we don't we're not, and how we need to fix �*it's daft to say that on't fix. it's daft to say that leaving the european union reduced our status. >> is it daft? >> is it daft? >> no, i don't think it is. i mean, i think when we were in the eu we were incredibly influential large bloc influential in a very large bloc that that we, we,

we voted for brexit.y to the people in the street, we voted for brexit, but we're going to maintain a shared space of european laws and values. they say, what are you talking about? what's the whole point of it? when you get judges in it? and when you get judges in place who are appointed by the elites you put them into elites and you put them into a lovely sounding thing, european court human rights, it sounds court of human rights, it sounds fluffy, but actually it's polishing a turd. the reality is they are there to suppress the wishes and the views of democratically elected governments and people . we governments and people. we should have nothing to do with it and any human rights we need in this country. we can do our own bill of rights. >> there we go. matthew. own bill of rights, which covers pretty much everything that's in the can't we that? the echr. why can't we do that? >> former boss, rishi >> well, your former boss, rishi sunak, prime minister, he's sunak, the prime minister, he's been desc

and i think obama helped the brexit campaign in obviously. but so that was on the agenda. brexit.rsation would have been delightful, then on of course to nato where cameron would have said, oh, but you've been so rude about the nato members. trump would say, hey, we're not paying trump would say, hey, we're not paying the whole bill. you guys got to chip in. and it would have been, though trump would have been, though trump would have enjoyed himself enormously. i'd love to have it at the next table just watching the whole thing, i suppose. >> do you think donald trump is going to get on better with david cameron or david lammy? >> it's a very good question, actually. i mean, what's the difference? i mean, there isn't much difference between them really at all other than lammy's a bit more fun . a bit more fun. >> david, this is the scoop here. david lammy is more fun than david cameron is he good god yes. >> i mean, you know, you might disagree with david lammy's opinions, but got a big opinions, but he's got a big personality. he laughs a lot, likes drink, he's all right. likes

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and it's not so much brexit thing because we can all laugh about brexit. now was eight years ago.o people keep trudging it up. however, the climate change things, everything is climate change. >> that's the gift that keeps giving you trip over in the street. >> it's because of climate change. >> yeah, if it's warm, it's climate change. if it's cold, it's climate change. >> yeah, i know you can't win, can you? it's freezing out here right now. it's like late april. it's freezing . suddenly no one's it's freezing. suddenly no one's really talking about climate change unless it comes to supermarket shelves. >> and also with climate change, they always say, oh, we're having the this is the wettest weather or the coldest weather or the hottest weather in 100 years or in 200 years. and it's like, well, what was making it so hot 200 years ago was that was making it hot in the dinosaur age. >> tudor. do you know the during the tudor times, the dinosaurs used to love those tudors , used to love those tudors, didn't they? they eat them, but they did. >> they were growing. >> they were growi

and it's all about the benefits brexit, which benefits of brexit, which haven't happened.d. but this news. as steve this is some good news. as steve said, as good as said, it's not maybe as good as you because it's you think because when it's updated, you think because when it's upidown a bit. if you adjust go down a bit. and if you adjust for inflation, it turns out we import and exported than import and exported less than 2018. it's 2018. but at least it's positive, i thought i thought for we suddenly for a second we suddenly manufacturing happened. for a second we suddenly manufac largely happened. for a second we suddenly manufac largely financial»pened. but it is largely financial and professional services. so we haven't sort of, haven't turned into a sort of, you a manufacturing you know, a manufacturing powerhouse. tertiary, powerhouse. it's still tertiary, but i mean, on the other hand, you know, i get a bit bored of all these articles about, oh, look, look, brexit is called look, oh look, brexit is called this economic this caused this economic disaster no has bee

we're making no use at all of brexit. we're not actually implementing the brexit freedoms.ample. what's that going to do for investment in britain keeping umpteen thousands and thousands of eu regulations, which we don't need . what's that doing for us? if .what's that doing for us? if we had somebody in power, a party in power that was absolutely determined to maximise brexit to britain's advantage, we would be laughing. >> and last but not least , faith >> and last but not least, faith schools in england would no longer have to offer offer a proportion of their places to children who do not follow their religion under plans being considered by number 10. so what this means potentially, is that children religion are children with no religion are being kept out of faith schools, so you might not get into a catholic school if you're not catholic, church of england, etc. is this the right move to freeze out non—religious children from faith schools? >> well, it makes perfect common sense to me that if you've set up a catholic school or if you've set up an anglican school, or