commissioner brezland? >> i would like to propose we change the government rules so the board appoints the actual weaactuary instead of the director. it would make it appropriate they report to us in our response to us. tourial >> i hear the action. that's a starting point but i hear you going further. are there any other comments by commissioners on this topic? >> the only comment i would make is that the processing to hire the director was very constrained and that we could not have any discussions on -- you know as a group expect in board meetings we have to be very careful about the brown act and other thing. we find ourselves -- it is difficult for us to work as a committee or a subcommittee to evaluate our recommendations to the rest and i guess i would prefer we not get overly involved in management issues myself. number one, i don't think we are structured to be able to do that effectively. but maybe more importantly, i think to the extent that we are able to receive presentations on the rfp process

commissioner brezland and i attended the "first annual appreciation lunch "for city board commissioners individually paid $40. and i told my wife this is the first time i've had to pay to congratulate myself. it was a very interesting afternoon. i personally found it to be interesting from the standpoint of meeting other commissioners that provide so much of the active volunteer leadership to a wide range of city activities and operations so i found that to be of interest. i would also like to go on record noting that the vice president, commissioner lin will be sitting this chair next month while i am attending a meeting in denver, colorado. so i didn't want to be shocked. i gave him advance notice i that he would be doing that. but i will be working with the executive director and her team to formulate the agenda and so forth. so those are the items that i have to report on for this monday. we indicated that we would take the item 4 up as an action -- a discussion and possible action item, and i would like to have that introduced at this time. >> clerk: thank you. item 4. discussion o