brian barrett covers these issues for "wired" and joins me now. brian, let's separate the fact from the fiction a little bit here. what have we learned from these leaks? what are these devices capable of recording? >> well, you know, it's interesting. what we learned from the leaks is more of a confirmation that the c.i.a. is hacking into lot of devices. you would sort of expect that, but what it shows is that these devices can be used in ways that we might not have expected. so a smart tv, for instance, has a microphone on it because sometimes remote controls are voice activated now, but the c.i.a. has found a way to use that to listen to you. your smartphone, which the c.i.a. knows how to, whether it's an iphone or android phone, compromise those. the microphones can will be to you. they can access the camera. they can look through all of the documents you have. it's really full access to your digital life. >> sreenivasan: unlike the snowden revelations, this wasn't about mass surveillance, bulk collection of information. this is in the targeted