brian shactman was mentioning that a person there had made a lot of money, but then i said you have to live there -- >> okay, the editor and chief, james bennettis back with us. >> every time i quote this story -- that protects drunkards and the united states of america. can you believe this? seven years ago, we were told we were going to be out of natural gas within ten years. now, there's an infinate supply. revolutionized america's america. >> even the big oil companies called this one wrong. >> talk about oil and before, let's first of all, just for a minute or two, to wave my usa flag and to say we're number one and to hell with the middle east and to stick it to opec. let's do that first, then you can tell me why that's short sided. >> we have been listening -- >> we tend to do that here. >> it's been a great conversation. >> when you listen -- >> it's been a great conversation about presidential decision making, iraq, through syria and carl bernstein made the observation that one team has been religion. i think the other theme has been energy and the consequences, big decisions and you go back to 1911, winston churchill with was first l