brian bennett covers homeland security for the "los angeles times."rie, i want to start with you. battle lines being drawn today? what jumped out at you about the first day of this? >> well, the first day here was clearly an attempt by the gang of 8, the bipartisan negotiating group, to show that they are willing, that it is willing to accept changes to the bill. they agreed to some key changes on border security, that is an attempt to show that, again, that they want republicans on board, that they are open to changes and that this is a committee process that can be trusted. however, at the end of the markup i spoke with some of the republican senators on the committee and they said they're not persuaded. that these were minor changes in their view and think that's still a lot of problems with the bill, with the border security measures. so even though there are bipartisan changes here, not enough, it looks like, at this point to bring undecided republicans on board. >> brown: just to stay with you for a moment, carrie, how important is this amendmen

. >> brown: brian bennett, as we've seen, the main focus is over security at the border.lain the key ways that are being raised here about how that should be dealt with. >> well, so the gang of eight came together and put together what they consider to be a strong border security package that has to go into place within ten years for any of the people who are legalized to be able to become citizens and that border security package would spend about $4.5 billion, maybe up to $6.5 billion on border security and increase surveillance and do a number of things like that. so republicans on the committee who opposed those measures tried to change it. senator grassley, for example, wanted a change so that the border security would have to be met before anyone was legalized. >> brown: they talked about effective control of that border. is that well defined? >> it is and it isn't. the border control currently has no definition of effective control and there were percentages to different sectors and the border control says if the high risk sector comes out of the border it has to b

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