jeff gardere, lieu palumbo, holly hurks brian claypool. and we're going to be going to kyung lah and vary sidner. but first, i want to start with you. what does this tell us about the young man. >> again, i don't want to get into finger pointing but the regular flags were missed. the red flags were there. july 21st, treated for injuries. he was actually the instigator. he talks about that in the manifes manifesto. went and started a fight in the fras house from what we can tell from this. january 159, stealing three candles. you made a great point. three candles. he comes from a privilege legend family. he made a citizen's arrest. it tells me two incidents in a row he was very, very aggressive, delusionally aggressive. april 30th, a check on his welfare. we don't want to do arm chair quarterbacking. the sheriff's deputies did the best they could. there was not a mental person involve and that's the hole right there. >> that's something that could have been the key that everybody wanted. again, we always look for some possible solution. we'

membership panel back with me, jeff, jeff gardere, holly hughes, brian claypool, lou colombo.d i have had multiple conversations about this. but let's be clear, okay. we can talk about mental health. but there's got to be a way that crazy people don't get guns because what it seems like they're doing is they are killing people just so they can end up killing themselves. death by cop is i think what they call it, lou. how do we get our head around this? >> well, you know, i've spoken to this numerous times. and the interesting thing is that the very thing that i suggest, i actually experienced. for example, i've had a home and an office for my business in southern california for a number of years. i resided in manhattan beach. i applied for a concealed weapons permit, business related. and i was granted one. the interesting thing was i was mandated by then, to undergo psychologic evaluation, raw shock, word association, and an interview. and that was to get the initial permit. and every two years to get the renewal. i know this works. and i think what we need to do is come to t

jeff gardere, holly hughes, brian claypool and lou palumbo.ere law enforcement that rushed fire, but what does that tell you about the gunman's ability to carry this out and his ability to reload while still in a vehicle and still while sort of making his way down that stretch of college town? >> well, i will tell you, interestingly enough, he had a high level of proficiency with this firearm because i can tell you after having carried a weapon for 40 years and i actively shoot, i constantly train, i'm qualified once a year. he was pretty proficient. this wasn't luck. the other thing is these firearms today are so easy to reload. they're so quick in their mechanism that, you know, it doesn't surprise me that he was capable of carrying out this level of violence and so efficiently. we've become more efficient in killing people, that's for certain. >> right. that's exactly what i thought myself actually because, you know, you think about this. if you purchase that gun, the question is was he practicing firing it because i grey with you, lou, on

holly hughes, brian claypool, first of all, brian, let me ask you, you see something like this.esto. how do you as a criminal defense lawyer try to defend against something like this when it is so clearly spelled out about what his mental state was? >> well, i think what the manifesto reveals is that he was previewing what he was going to do. and that gets to a very important point that i want to make that is vastly different than what other members of the panel have said. i think a big issue here that we have to take a look at is when did the family first report to law enforcement the youtube clip or any comments that he made about wanting to slaughter people? and then we've got to look at how much time law enforcement had to do an investigation in this. because in the aftermath of sandy hook and aurora, everybody was out there saying, why didn't somebody report this before it happened? here, we have somebody reporting it. we have a family member reporting this to law enforcement. why wasn't there an immediate intervention? because i think their psychologists guests will agree.

. >> so you just heard that attorney, brian claypool, saying a sterling is a sterling is a sterling.d of like a rose by any other name. shelly or donald, is there a difference? joining us now is elsie granderson from espn. elsie grandgranderson, how does league, how do the other owners, journalists like yourselves in the business of sports, view mrs. sterling? are they one and the same? the whole kit and ka bootle including all the racism and uglines ugliness? >> absolutely. you know, ever since, i would say 2005, 2006, when journalists really started to pay attention to what was going on with the department of justice and the sterlings. looked at the allegations. looked at the settlements. specifically nba beat writers who were aware of this development. they view that couple, that family, as one and the same. so any kind of shell game that shelly would like to play in trying to distance herself from her husband really isn't going to fly with the people who have been paying attention. and now because of social media, now because of these audiotapes, the general public is starting to

we're also joined by los angeles criminal defense attorney brian claypool.a, first of all, i want to hear your side of the story. how does this even happen? >> yeah, i don't know. you can imagine how shocked i was yesterday morning to wake up to a lawsuit that i did not file, an outrageous one, at that, and then have all the media circus surrounding it. and i understand why people thought it was funny. i mean, the details were quite creative, but there's nothing funny about someone trying to attempt to smear someone's name, their reputation, hurt their career. i felt terrible for johnny manziel. i've never met him. that's on the record. but he didn't deserve that. and it was upsetting for me. you know, i worked really hard to get to where i am today, and i didn't want anyone to think that i was affiliated with this. i didn't want my name associated with that type of a headline. i'm usually the one reporting this. and the reaction on twitter for the most part, most people saw it for what it was, a hoax. but there were people that were rather mean, and believe

so let's talk it over with my panel samantha shocker and lz granderson and margaret hoover and brian claypool'm going to start with you on this one. should their comments have cost them the show, do you think? >> i don't really think their comments necessarily cost them the show. i think the fact that their brand seemed to represent something that the hgtv audience didn't like and hgtv realized there was more attention being pointed towards their overall brand and made a business decision. i think it's naive to think that solely saying those words got them kicked off. if she said those words and still had sponsors for hgtv, that would have been but they thought it was damaging for their brand and not draw an answer so they made a business decision. >> what is so interesting, samantha, according to the benham's, my interview with them, they say that hgtv knew about their outspoken beliefs so why do you think the network is responding now to all of this? >> it's surprising because you would think with everything that happened with "duck dynasty" they would foresee something like this happening

with me, senior writer for cnn, l.z granderson and brian claypool, a season ticket holder. h me on this memorial day. brian, we know donald sterling turned over the sale of the team to his wife. does that mean she can sit down with steve ballmer and negotiate a sale? >> happy memorial day, by the way, carol. how ironic that on memorial day, on a day where our veterans have fought for equality in our country and fought for freedom in our country that we're talking about a man who wants nothing to do, and a woman who really wants nothing to do with equality in our country. getting back to your question, shelly sterling can talk to whoever she wants to try to negotiate a sale of the team. at the end of the day, carol, she's in the going to have any interest in the clippers, because in 2005, she signed the same agreement that donald sterling signed that says that neither one of them can transfer their 50% ownership in the l.a. clippers to each other unless the board of governors of the nba approves that by a 3/4 vote. she's not going to have a say in who the clippers get sold to

with me now, cnn's stephanie elam, brian claypool, attorney and clippers season ticket holder and mel cnn commentator and legal analyst. stephanie elam, you want to go first? donald sterling says he's not a racist. do you think he understands what a racist is? >> i think he may be confused a bit about what that means. there's a couple of things here. a, he seemed to open up the door maybe he's not willing to put in the fight here. maybe he's willing to sell and walk away. one first thing -- he didn't totally say it but opened the door to it. the other issue, talks about the players, how they still love him. if one does it the rest follow. because you know, chris paul, blake griffith, deandrei, all jellyfish. what one does, the other one does. doc rivers says it was, reverse the jerseys and have those label, the logo not showing. so even in his way of saying they love him, he offended them. a very odd way to go. >> it is. brian, he said, do you think they'll just walk off the team? they have to work. but they actually will just walk off the team if he remains the owner, but he doesn't

joining me now is attorney brian claypool along with cnn commentator mel robbins. with you, brian. what are the chances this deal actually gets approved? >> this is like bonnie & clyde. donald sterling has been acting as clyde. he's sent mixed messages to the nba on purpose. also this interview he gave anderson cooper where he was delirious. he's been setting the table for shelly sterling to claim he's mentally incapacitated. she's not even authorized to make this deal. she's making her own rules now and saying the trust says that i can sell the team if donald isi. the two documents are at odds. if i'm the nba commissioner and if i'm the nba board of governors, i'm not authorizing this deal until donald sterling is fully onboard or else it's going to be a mess. it's going to be undone later on. >> it makes you wondering what's happening behind the scenes. i want to read this from shelly sterling's lawyers press release just this morning. it says that she has signed a binding contract for the sale of the clippers and was acting under her authority as the sole trustee

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