let's bring in attorney brian claypool who joins me now. brian, i want to get there video in.et's start with the first piece of it here. this is officer green, the first officer on the scene showing jurors the shotgun that murdaugh had on him at the scene. watch this. >> do you know what gauge that firearm is? thank you. >> martha: let's get in one more piece of video. this is the body cam audio of murdaugh explaining where he was before sergeant green arrived on the scene. watch this. >> did you go to the house first? where is the house? >> i came to the house first. my mom has late stages of alzheimer's. my dad is in the hospital. i left -- i don't know what time. i can go back on the phone and -- could you check? >> we have medical guys. that's what they're going to do. >> what are they doing? can they hurry? >> they are. yes, sir. >> what is your take on what we've seen so far here? >> martha, man, this is a heavyweight boxing match in a courtroom. i will tell you that both sides have some great arguments. they're going to get certain rounds in their favor. at the end of t

more inside of the tragedy, brian claypool, brian, welcome. >> hey, mike. mike: your thoughts as we are looking new information from the authorities there in southern california. i know that you're a short distance from the actual scene. your thoughts on the terrible tragedy? >> what a sobering stay, stark reminder that we need to count our blessings and not assume that we are being another day, me being survivor of las vegas shooting. my hearts go out to everybody involved including law enforcement, first responders, victims, families. look, at the end of the day, we have technology that's going to help us catch this criminal, there's got to be surveillance video footage. you know, inside the ballroom, outside of the ballroom. law enforcement is going to have to canvas businesses all around the monterey park area to see if the footage shows anybody acting suspiciously. that's a good starting point. and then also, you know, much like with the idaho murder case, footage of a car, you know, screeching away. did anybody see a car or a van. there was a white va

thank you. >> john: joining us now is brian claypool, and based on the reporting, a bloody rug, knifea hacksaw, police searching a wastes transfer station, brian walshe buying hundreds of dollars of cleaning supplies, searching on google how to dispose of 115 pound body, alleged lies to police, do you have any doubt what likely happened here? >> john, nice to be back with you. yeah, i mean, the evidence looks daunting for him, and we now have a means and motive, right. she apparently -- she was having her washington condominium set up for her kids to live there. you know, put together three bedrooms, had means, motive, but look, two reasons why he has yet to be charged for first-degree murder. the first is we don't have a body. the first element in a first-degree murder charge is you have to have an unlawful killing so they are searching frantically for the body. it's harder to prosecute without the body. without the body, you have to proof the death through circumstantial evidence and that's the evidence you are talking about, blood, blood on the knife in his home, hacksaw, bloody ru

here to react trial attorney brian claypool fox news legal analyst drake jared this is nonsense here i don't to say it i don't to say it cops but -- stupid but i have to say this. do you think it is geng to work? >> no. i doubt it. the grounds keeper has been cleared. this sort of appears at least prosecutors is that defendant trying to pin it on somebody else. they've built a fairly strong circumstantial evidence case against the defendant. it's not airtight by any means but i think among most powerful pieces of evidence is cell phone video tape from one of the victims paul murdaugh. at 8 4*6r789 4 his cell phone video you can hear in the background his father's voice. that's at 8:44, eight minutes later it is shut down and no activity immediately thereafter mother and son murdered yet alex murdaugh told police he wasn't at kennels until later when he discovered bodies. they also collected blood from inside the defendant's chevrolet suburban we don't know whose blood it is but we will if it is a blood of a victims that was transferred from alex murdaugh to his vehicle as he drove ba

. >> martha: in a moment, brian claypool.rst to moscow idaho where jonathan hunt has the latest details. hi, jonathan. >> hi, martha. 28-year-old accused killer bryan kohberger sits in the county jail, which is part of the court complex behind me here in moscow, idaho as investigators continue to build their case against him. the house where the four students were so brutally murdered remains a crime scene. the last few days, we've witnessed the investigators bringing out more physical evidence. among that evidence that we saw removed, mattresses. some of the victims were stabbed to death as they slept in their beds. they were wrapped in thick plastic. we could vaguely make out dark stains underneath them. given the nature of the killings, you can draw your own conclusions. students at the university of idaho are returning this week for spring semester, which begins on wednesday. for many of them, it's the first time seating foot back in mos co since they left in the wake of those november 13 killings when a killer was still

let's bring in brian claypool to help us sort it out. ak-in david where david depape violently breaks into the home and then the police bodycam when they knock on the door and i mean, it's almost a surprise that the two men open the door, i guess paul pelosi had made the call to 911 and was hoping that the police were going to show up, and then the attack by depape against paul pelosi. what did you make of that whole sequence? >> john, nice to be back with you. before i comment, nobody wants to see anybody get hurt and terrible to see paul pelosi hurt and we all wish him the best. that said, this investigation has been about transparency, and one big take-away i have from this that's troubling, john, the department of justice came out and said the police officers opened the door, its in the report. we just saw the footage. the police officers did not open the door. the door was opened by paul pelosi. that to me is really a critical fact. the doj had to have reviewed that footage before they put in a report about how the door is open. why

we bring with attorney brian claypool. brian, great to have you with us. you listen to alexis' report. the dad drove him home in that white elantra that was already on everyone's radar that people were looking for. what do you think happened here? >> martha, great to see you again. happy new year. an arrest of a suspect is the first phase. we need to see what this dna connection is. it's really important to know what the forensic analysts have been doing. what i mean by that, i understand there's a genealogy connection. michael baden said, defense lawyers will attack that as being unreliable. the first thing i would have done when i arrested kohberger, i would have asked for saliva swab. if he didn't give it, i would have get ten a court order for a dna. if there's any of his skin under the fingernails of the two girls, now you can do a clear test to find out whether he really was the killer. i think we need to be careful about doing a victory lap in this case. there's a hearing that has to take place in idaho of 14 days of kohberger making his first appea

we want to go ahead and bring in attorney brian claypool for a little more insight on this. brian with, can you hear me? >> yeahings or bill, i'm here. bill: okay, perfect. i assume you're looking at the same live pictures we're looking at right now. one of the things i've noticed being a street reporter for many years now including in the l.a. market is the posture of those officers, those deputies on scene, the s.w.a.t. team there. they've got their backs turned to that white van. they're not taking an active posture in terms of my potential danger coming to that vehicle. what are you noticing about crime scene, and what does it say to you? >> yeah, bill, mice to be back with you. just to let your viewers know, i live about 15 minutes from monterey park, not far from will. it's a very quaint community, about 60,000 folks, 65% asian, about 25% hispanic. so this is a really nice part of l.a., a lot of businesses so people had their guard down celebrating. one hinge i do want to mention is we've now learned lu your reporting that -- through your reporting that if this is the g

brian claypool is a criminal defense attorney. n, what specifically are you looking at the minute you get your hands on this tape because we'll share it with you. >> yeah, jesse, great to see you. before i answer that, gavin, i got news for gavin newsom, that dash cams and dash cam footage is created for transparency, gavin. that's all that fox and the country wants to see transparency on that. that said, jesse, i have got to tell you. the department of justice is in a boat load of trouble. if that body cam footage that you get tomorrow shows that paul pelosi walked over and opened that door, why? because they issued a report that said to the contrary. the two officers opened the door. that is a legally created document that formed an arrest warrant and if that document is proven to be falsified by that video tomorrow that you are going to get, then i would suggest that merrick garland and the whole department of hypocrisy -- i mean, the department of justice needs to be investigated. and, one more question for you and the world is

lawrence: joining me now to dig deeper into this case, trial attorney brian claypool former fbi specialarine o'connell thank you for joining the program tonight mr. clayborn you first because this is sad. qliem you have head of security reporting the missing mother and her own husband still to this day still loornghted her missing. l >> lawrence great to be back with you imagine this guy brian walsh in his driveway in middle of a snowstorm trying to shovel out the driveway but that snow keeps burying him that's happening here with the evidence. lawrence. you've got to rely on the evidence here and it is smothering him he looks smug in photographs you've shown but you've got -- you've got a bloody knife to know a dna test to make sure his dna is on that and hacksaw and garbage can with bloody russian and toothbrush or hair fibers from anna in the house to match dna there. you've got this guy researching how to dismember 115 found woman and wife weighed 115 pounds and lied to authorities where he was at and seen with gloves on buying cleaning supplies. so the evidence is mounting against

murder you're entitled to a criminal defense what will be his defense legal analyst greg jared and brian claypool've been doing this for a long time brother. there's a lot to rip apart also in this probable cause affidavit if you're on the criminal defense side. what do you see, sir? >> hey lawrence great to be with you. look at the end of the day defense lawyers create a trial within a trial. what i mean by that is they are going to challenge the preservation the crime scene they've already sent out his public defenders sent out experts to the cream scene. they are going look at every single piece of evidence that was supposed to be preserved at that crime scene and they're going to challenge that let me give you an example baa lawrence there were friends that came over to the house before 9-1-1 is called. every single surviving roommate every single friend that came over to that house will be questioned where did you walk to within that house and what it you ?ee what did you touch while you were in that house for example when you walked into the room did you see the sheathe from the knife on th

we are jarring to live on set brian claypool. we were told the following. we were told this is quoting from the council, doj has an an will not tell white house officials what they kenah canno say publicly about this case. white house runs its own show. that's the way it works. doj not getting any mandates an as you saw kevin corke laid out nicely the white house is blaming this all on the doj. can't say anything because there's a special counsel underway. >> interesting. it lets compare how president trump was handled with biden. we have to tear it justice. one providing the democrats and concierge vip front row first class on the plane. it then you have republicans like trump would get the backseat of the plane and economy. do you remember how highly publicized it was when trumpet rate happened? do you remember a picture taken by the fbi of a classified document and it was attached to a public record court document to oppose the special master, why? is to the whole work and see, w want to make president trump look bad. we want to use as a ruse to fin out

let's bring in brian claypool. we talk about this reform. i've said many times i think th reform is code for defined that the police. take money away from them to ge the money out of their hands. you think national for reform, local reform, what is your take on this. >> i've worked on cases like this for over 12 years may have been on cases involving shootin deaths, taser deaths. and i will tell you that this i not a reformed type of case or training type of case. by the way say that? training issues are when two or three cops show up in one of them shoots because they don't put their hands up when they say . this involved all the officers who have this mob mentality. they all exhibited rage amendment that they pulled over tyre nichols. that is a systemic and departmental issue within a police department. it is a culture that has been permeated and allowed to exist because of upper management. what i see the sixth and sevent cops have been charged, what about the leadership. this is a leadership issue allowing that mentality to permeate. >>

search warrants for his apartment claiming releasing them could put the officer's safety at risk, brian claypool defense attorney. the description, he's saying oh, yeah, kohberger is calm, educated and shows no signs of mental illness. are you a lawyer psychiatrist, who is diagnosing this kid, what would you make that description? >> bad comment by the public defender, that usurps whether you can later make a claim diminished capacity or a mental health ailment, that was a bad move. if i can comment on this judge, this judge in pullman, washington, sealing the search warrant affidavit, can you smell some hometown small town cooking here? this county, by the way, 40,000 people in the whole county. if this crime had happened in another county that's larger or a city, this affidavit would be unsealed. it's important for the community to know what the evidence is and the two reasons they gave, oh, there's an imminent fear of harm, really? kohberger is in jail, and the other reason given is that they don't have access to the, or they don't want to compromise the investigation. you have him behind bar

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geraldo rivera, co host of "the five" will be joining jeanine later today and attorney brian claypool and mark geragos, criminal defense attorney that defended chris brown, michael jackson, scott peterson. he has a huge resume of dealing with high profile cases, this is one of those for sure. geraldo, what is your reaction to this involuntary man slaughter charge that alec baldwin faces? he faces 6 1/2 years in prison at this trial. >> if i were representing alec baldwin, i would be advising him to plead, to get a plea deal, to get something like david hall has got, the six months suspended sentence. that's appropriate, i think, in this case because what he faces, this grim reality of the mandatory five, plus the 1 1/2 years, alec baldwin has convicted himself out of his own mouth. he said "i would never point a gun at anyone and pull the trigger at them never." the fbi says that gun could not possibly fire if you didn't pull the trigger. so alec baldwin, points a real, loaded gun, pulls the trigger and helena dies. >> it's involuntary man slaughter. it's as if you were texting when y