and the come country's most powerful oligarchy really come out of all with our democracy lost brian darling and sam sachs and its politics and. a former top government watchdog thinks the donald trump is turning our democracy into something that looks less like a democracy and more like a kleptocracy in a new interview with the guardian walter shaab who resigned earlier this month as the head of the office of government ethics so the trump. business ties are created a cloud of suspicion surrounding his entire administration we can't know whether his decisions are motivated by his policy aims or his financial interests shaab says and that uncertainty alone undermines the faith in governmental decision making and puts a cloud over everything the government does end of quote so is this crony capitalism or something even worse that's richard wolffe a visiting press professor at the new school co-founder of democracy at work and author of numerous books including capitalism is crisis deepens essays on the global economic meltdown professor richard wolfe welcome back. thank you tom glad to be her

very much into and joining me now is robert george, taylor maxwell, and republican strategist brian darling. and we have been watching together all of the different protests taking place around the country. we have the example of what took place today in boston. and the anti-nazi protests really dwarfed this small group of right wingers. but robert, let me ask you, when we think about the amount of people here in boston as opposed to what we saw in charlottesville, how does this compare in terms of police organization, also event organization for people being able to effectively do what they want and achieve a satisfaction of being heard. >> well that is the key thing. i think they were -- they were -- in charlottesville, aside from the loss of life down there, was the fact that the police lost control of the situation. they didn't keep the protesters and counter-protesters separate and we saw what happened. obviously up in boston they were prepared. obviously having -- they had seen what happened in the week before. and they kept it the -- the peace and that is the most important thing and

and david korn, and brian darling, kristen clark, and thank you all for joining me.avid, start with you. what is your reaction to the white house statement looking to deflect some criticism the president received by his choice of words yesterday? should it had come directly from the president? >> one thing we know about donald trump is that he shares his feelings with us. he attacks mitch mcconnell. he attacks the "new york times." he attacks friends and foes whenever he feels strongly about soing. and we can also see what he doesn't do. so the fact that he could not bring himself, not for the first time to condemn white nationalists and neo-nazis and the kkk is purposeful. it's not an accident. it's not an oversight. so then the white house comes out with a statement saying, of course when he condemns violence it includes violence perpetuated by the kk, nazis and white nationalists. he has never been shy before telling us what's on his mind. any statement that doesn't dprum him, from his little tweeting fingers really means nothing. it's like someone trying to provi

republican strategist brian darling. kristin clark, president and executive director for the lawyers committee on civil rights. david, i'll start with you. what is your reaction to the white house statement looking to deflect some of the criticism that the president received by his choice of words yesterday? should it have come directly from the president? >> one thing we know about donald trump is that he shares his feelings with us. he attacks mitch mcconnell. he attacks "the new york times." he attacks friends and foes whenever he feels strongly about something. and we can also see what he doesn't do. so the fact that he could not bring himself -- not for the first time -- to condemn white nationalists and neo-nazis and the kkk -- is purposeful. it is not an accident. it is not an oversight. so then the white house comes out with a statement saying, of course whether he condemns violence, it includes violence perpetuated by the kkk, nazis and white nationalists. he has never been shy before about telling us what's on

. >> jamaal simmons and brian darling. thank you so much. >>> "hardball" with chris matthews is next, chris is back, so stay tuned. >>> silence is consent, let's play hardball. >>> good evening, i'm chris matthews back in washington. there's been an historic evil in this country, it's an evil that began with slavery, of course. an institution that subjugated millions of human beingses with whips and shackles until the end of the civil war. it emerged as the ku klux klan found in slavery. the 1915 film birth of a nation found a national audience stirring and fueling a resurgence of the klan for decades thereafter. the scenes from this weekend show that the kkk may have been suppressed but not extinguished. the evil remains still in the american soil, waiting for its moment to rise again. >> starting on friday night, white supremacists, including the kkk, neo-nazis and members of the alt right descended in charlottesville in a culminated in the death of heather heyer. for two days, the president of our country not only refus

. >> jamaal simmons and brian darling.dball" with chris matthews is next, chris is back, so stay tuned. >>> silence is consent, let's play hardball. >>> good evening, i'm chris matthews back in washington. there's been an historic evil in this country, it's an evil that began with slavery, of course. an institution that subjugated millions of human beingses with whips and shackles until the end of the civil war. it emerged as the ku klux klan found in slavery. the 1915 film birth