i'm going for growth. >> i'm going to ask brian evans to answer that as well. that debate has been ranging for a couple of week. goldman says sell those bonds, ubs says buy those bonds. what do you say, brian? >> i think it depends on which bonds you're talking about. >> the long-term treasuries. >> oh, long-term treasuries. i'm not a big fan of treasuries. i don't see any risk/reward with the treasuries. they're at an all-time high, but there are other areas of the bond market that you can get into, that are secured, select high yields. but the treasuries, which are very heavy in most bond market indexes are not in a good place. you have to be careful to expose you're to bonds. >> let me ask you about stocks, andrew wilkinson. we continue to see gdp that shows an anemic story. is that enough for this market to be justified, do you think, that we're getting ahead of ourselves in terms of the strength, relative to what's going on in the economic backdrop? >> i think the path for stocks will remain exponentially going forward. if you look at the patent we've had

brian also has an interview with the ceo of churchill downs, robert evans.verage begins at 4:00 p.m. eastern tomorrow on nbc. >> yes. and straight ahead after adisappointing march jobs report, what's going to happen next? we'll put our question to the jobs panel. here is a look at how futures are trading ahead of the open on wall street. we'll be right back. >>> welcome back to "worldwide exchange." i'm kelly evans. >>> and i'm ross westgate. here are your headlines today from around the world. >> the euro spiking after ecb board member nowotny pouring cold water on the notion that the ecb will look at negative interest rates anytime soon. >> the markets overinterpreted this point. of course, there's always some kind of a technical discussion about this. but there is no specific plan in this direction. >> technically, they are also unintended consequences which must be properly assessed. >> u.s. jobs growth likely picked up from april. other signs in the economy are still lagging. >>> and don't get used to it, india's central bank cuts its lending rate for t

brian shaw did plead guilty to conspireing to commit security fraud. he received tips. sentencing is set for september 16th. we'll keep an eye on that. >>> when we come back, kelly evansl and bayer back & body are proven to be effective pain relievers tylenol works by blocking pain signals to your brain bayer back & body's dual action formula includes aspirin, which blocks pain at the site. try the power of bayer back & body. with centurylink visionary cloud a brinfrastructure, and custom communications solutions, your business is more reliable, secure, and agile. ♪ there'll be the usual presentations on research. and development. some new members of the team will be introduced. the chairman emeritus will distribute his usual wisdom. and you? well, you're the chief life officer. you just need the right professional to help you take charge. ♪ >>> i'm jane wells outside the federal courthouse in los angeles. we are waiting for brian shaw to come out of the courthouse. he has just pled guilty to insider trading. when the judge asked him, how do you plead? he said, guilty, your honor. he is inside with his attorney right now going through processing so that they can be ge