joining me from washington, d.c, brian fishman, formerly director of research at combating terrorism center in west point. brian glad to have you there. syria has been in focus of defeating the islamic state group. how concerned they are about western recruitment. this is an example of what they're hearing about. check it out. >> i was like any other regular canadian. i watched hockey. i went to the cottage in the summertime. i liked outdoors, i liked sports. i had money, i had a family. i had good friends, i had colleagues. it wasn't like i was social outcast, wasn't like i was an anarchist, not destroying and killing everybody, no i was a very good person and mujica uh muja hadeen. regular people too. appealing to the fringe or the mainstream? >> well, when you look at terrorists of all stripes one of the shocking things about them is they oftentimes seem like regular people until they decide to go off and do something are violent. not like the islamic state of syria and iraq. that is clearly a propaganda video designed to attract other westerners, canadians, americans, western euro

esqui"esquire" magazine ran an article in which it said fishman was closing in on the administration in that four christie aides could be indicted. joining me is brianege who was at the hearing on thursday. the key point about regina agia, september 13th, the day that pat foye realizes what's been going on with the lane closures, puts this scathing e-mail together that says laws were broken here. christie's guy at the port authority, takes that, marks it urgent, forwards it to regina in the governor's office. >> and then she does nothing, says she's going to wait for foye to do his own investigation and claims she never gave it anymore thought than that. >> she doesn't share this with anybody else, doesn't forward it, doesn't talk about it? >> no. she's reminded us many times, she's working in the counsel's office, but she's not a lawyer. she said she trusted lawyers to handle it. >> in terms of these texts then, there's no hint of context here of what these are about? >> you had to wait four hours in this hearing to have it come out, where she offhand mentions, i sent the governor texts when port authority officials were testifying back officials w