brian glazer: i have created a discipline that i have adhered to and i have met someone who is expertthing other, so science, technology, politics, athletics, of all types, every art form, and i meet these people, and i have no agenda and there is no asked. they cannot ask me to make a movie about their life, and i cannot say to them i want a job. it is just one of those things where it is pure, and you are just trying to learn, and you're entering someone else's sort of life process and their expertise, and it is a conversation that can last from one hour to three hours. john: if i read your book correctly, and i think it is true, on the same day, if i was following this, there was a screening at the white house 2005, where you screened something for george w. bush and you met john mccain and barack obama, so that is kind of an amazing day. i went to hear about that day. brian: because i had this about meeting a person every two weeks, they had opportunity to go to the white house to show “cinderella man” to george w. bush for a white house screening, and i thought, well i have got e