it is listening with about 10 minutes left this morning with brian hochman. you can go ahead and keep calling in. but in your book, you mention that every american generation has a scandal. what are some of the most interesting you that we haven't gotten to yet? so every generation seems to uncover wiretapping anew with fresh. outrage about a decade or so. there's a kind of cycle of resignation and outrage. the earliest national scandal pertaining to wiretapping in the united states happens in new york city in 1916. and this is a very interesting and complicated affair that involves multiple entities. but at the root of it was a slightly corrupt. mayor's office that had coerced the new york police department or force the police department to spy on five catholic priests who were suspected of charity fraud and along the way, the nypd was also working at the same time with a private investigator named william burns, who was in those days the most famous private investigator in, the united states. this a national scandal. it hit the headlines of every major news

i brian hochman, professor at georgetown university is the author and joining us. let me pause here and bring in some colors on this topic. anthony miller from new york, good morning, you're on with professor hochman. >> thank you professor for joining us, thank you to the moderator as well. perhaps you can both answer my question, if not today than it's a future segment says he's been would air. it's troubled me greatly ever since barack obama came into office, he was able to wipe clean a lawsuit that had been pending, believe it was hepdig versus at&t and the nsa. the thought police have been a well oiled machine in this governmental apparatus since the beginning of time, they've only perfected it. when you consider the fact that mark kline was a whistleblower who came forward and exposed what the nsa had been doing by illegally wiretapping, they had set up a big brother machine, what they referred to it as. whereby they were allowed to go through everything you do. every keystroke, every phone conversation. it's hard for us as regular people to know exactly how

you are interested in our other programs that we have coming up, please visit our websitegeor brian hochmanus now for a conversation about recent book the listeners history of wiretapping in the united states. and professor hochman. it's a history goes back probably a lot further than most people would think. you began the book with the story of dc williams. who's he? so williams was a stockbroker in the state of

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the book is the listeners the author brian hochman, a professor at georgetown university on twitter. it's at underscore hochman org. ahoy, mate and welcome to tonight's great lives presentation on america's pirates. the talk is sponsored by the community bank of the chesapeake to whom we are grateful for their generous support over the past several years and it's that kind of commitment that enables us the program to to bring to the university into the community outstanding speakers such as our guest tonight. eric j. dolan is the author of the fascinating book black flags blue waters. the epic history of america's most notorious pirates. eric grew up near the coasts of new york and connecticut and from an early age developed an interest in maritime affairs. toward that end. he earned a double major in biology and environmental studies then getting a master's degree in environmental management from yale. that was followed by a phd. in environmental policy and planning from mit where his dissertation focused on the role of the courts in the cleanup of boston harbor. erica's held an int