with educators on c-span and people kept saying what is the real brian lamb like and he didn't want a biography done. and i finally got a contract and i came in and said well, and you know, where do you think and he said i guess i would let you and i can't say no on the station committed to open access to information how can i close things down. so it didn't interfere, kind of opened the village, gave me a list of high school friends said that was kind of fun to do. prior to that, a book that looked at individuals that changed national policies and as those that created major legislation because of their action to read estimate what do you teach at the naval academy? >> political science. the last 40 years we've almost always been the number one people don't assume that in a technical school we say we are the value added major because they get their technical education plus to get the social science education that i teach media and politics and courses in the congress and campaigns and the elections and i keep my finger in the american government course. we have a course congress in

brian lamb went to perdue which is in west lafayette and he said all of his archives there. the justices are on c-span a lot, and you'd be surprised how much is out there in plain sight. a lot of these justices like to talk about themselves which is a common phenomenon in the human interaction, and i sort of went through a lot of these panel discussions and speeches with law schools and there was gold. in between the nine c-span put its archives on the web, so i was denied the pleasure of returning to west lafayette. but the same idea what my editor likes to say in reporting in general you'd be amazed how much is in plain sight, and i thought c-span was an example of how much was in plain sight. >> to also foot your answer around for a second but i am concerned is one source which is drawing of in most of my research i've gone to the library of congress where the justices have their personal papers and a couple of years ago when harry blackmun's papers opened up, there was a sort of pushed back by the court because justice didn't throw away anything. if you want to see every

close to home, i did a biography of brian lamb. people kept saying, well, what is the real brian lamb like? he did not want a biography done, and i pushed him, and i pumped him, and i finally got a contract, and i came in and said, well, what do you think? he said, well, i guess i'd let you do one. i can't stay no, i started this station that is committed to open access information, how can i close things down, and then he was a wonderful, you know, sort. didn't interfere, kind of opened doors for me, gave me a list of his high school friends and buddies, so that was kind of fun to do. prior to that did a book that looked at individuals who changed national policy. so called "citizen democracy." it was a bunch of profiles of individuals, unelected, unappointed individuals who went out and created things like major legislation because of their actions. >> host: what do you teach here at the naval academy? >> guest: i teach political science. we're kind of, our department's proud of the fact that we've almost always been the number o

they see what is the real brian lamb light and he didn't on the biography done and finally came in and said what do you think and they said well i guess i can't say no its open access information how can close things down and then was a wonderful sort, kind of open the doors for me and gave me a list of high school friends and buggies so that was kind of fun to do and prior to that i did a book that looked at individuals who changed national policy called a citizen democracy and it is much the profile of individuals, and elected, appointed individuals and creative things like major legislation because of their action. stat what you teach at the naval academy? >> art and science. they are proud of the fact we've always been the number one major people don't assume that in the technical school to get the technical education and social science education. i have to keep my finger in the american government course. we haven't required the american government course. the congress in its wisdom says what's going on at the naval academy when all they know of doesn't understand civilian control

[laughter] >> we will entertain questions now from the audience, and i urge you an homage to brian lamb the founder of c-span who may ask the best kind of questions which are simple and direct we can emulate him tonight that would be good. do we have questions? go ahead. >> the suggestion that abigail had for her children, which was a virtue and loyalty -- >> virtue, integrity and love of the country. >> [inaudible] was that the virtue in the spirit and sense of virtue or innocence of machiavelli? >> it was in the sense of service to your society. his parting words to his heirs, john quincy adams before he died, he knew that his one surviving son was already becoming accomplished. he would later become a candidate for vice president. he knew that his grandson, henry adams, was a brilliant writer who later became a distinguished historian. he said you must have one important purpose in life to use your talent and knowledge for the benefit of your country and for the use of mankind. and the adams' more than any other family had a founding father that continued to serve the country generat

. >> host: citizen of the world, sawyer interviewed by brian lamb. great insight. you take the sec position the past? >> guest: of course. i am not holding my breath. simon johnson was kind enough to suggest that i would be a worthy successor to mary schapiro, but, you know, i have done public-service. my greatest professional life was serving the government. if i was ever asked to serve again that position or act on it could really have a strong impact for positive change, i would do it in a heartbeat. with that said, and while i appreciate, greatly appreciate the suggestion and others to china and on behalf of this, i don't think it is incredibly lightly and will begin to nod. if asked, of course i would serve again. >> host: good afternoon. >> caller: thank you so much for taking my call. i would like you to name names. who are these criminals and how can we get them into prison? >> guest: well, unfortunately, we are running at a time. there is a five-year statute of limitations for most of the activity that would have led up to the financial crisis, so it is no

they urge you in homage brian lamb, founder of c-span who tuning asks the best questions, which are simpleand direct, we can emulate playing tonight, that would be good. go ahead. >> the suggestion that abigail has for her children, which was virtue and loyalty. >> virtual, integrity and love of country. >> with a virtue can appear 10 cents a virtue was that virtue in the sense of mac belly? >> it was in this sense of service to your society. his parting words to his heirs, john quincy adams before he died, he knew that his one surviving son was already becoming an accomplished citizen. he would later become a president for vice candidate and his grandson, henry adams was a brilliant writer who later became a distinguished historian. he left this to his heirs. he said you must have one important purpose in life to use your talent and knowledge for the benefit of your country and for the use of mankind. any adams has come within any other family but any other founding father who continue to serve his country generation after generation did get a nice jurists, historians, scholars of all typ

i wish brian lamb would have the jefferson -- jefferson wrote his own new testament and i wish brian lamb would have somebody on it. i never read it but i would like to know what it is about. i appreciate c-span. having wonderful day. host: thanks, jerry. columbus, ohio. we will keep talking about culture, politics, and social changes in america. coming up next, bill bennett, former education secretary. and clarence page from "the chicago tribune," syndicated columnist. we will be right back. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] >> issue is not whether it will be stigmatized or morally condemned. he is. precisely the same false claims. the issue is how many times the government can punish him as a result of that moral condemnation. the answer in the double jeopardy clause is ones. >> starting monday and throughout christmas week, c- span radio is featuring supreme court oral arguments by current justices before they were on the bench. all this week at 7:00 p.m. eastern time. you can listen to c-span radio in t

brian lamb went to purdue and sent all his archives there. the justices are on c-span a lot, and you'd be surprised how much is out there in plain sight. they -- a lot of these justices like to talk, and they like to talk about themselves, which is a common phenomenon in human interactions, and i sort of went through a lot of these panel discussions, and speeches at law schools, and there was gold. there was gold in there. unfortunately, in between the o'thine now "and "the oath" c-span but its archives on the web so i didn't get to back to west lafayette. the same idea. there were more -- my editor likes to say about reporting in general you'd be amazed how much is in plain sight, and i thought c-span was an example of how much was in plain sight. >> to also flip your question around for a second, what i am concerned is one source, which is drying up, and most of my research i've gone to the library of congress where the justices have their personal papers and a couple years ago when harry blackman's papers were opened up there was pushback