in 1975 when this is all happening but brian lamb, who founded c-span was and brian. will tell you that competition in satellite, it would cost c-span $15 million an hour for video programing to be transmitted to the 30,000 cable system head ends america to do national program was expensive just because of the monopoly hold up in satellite after open skies by the middle 1970s, c-span was able to launch at $100 an hour. they that's 150,000 times reduction because of opening the market. and it wasn't nuanced. it wasn't experimental it didn't take decades it got into the market quickly. an entire cable was then, in fact, deregulated, allowed to compete largely because they viable. and there was something there. there are hundreds of channels competing with what was supposed to be only three, according to fcc. and the world changed. and as henry brings up quite appropriately, it wasn't just that opening competition in satellite weren't to stimulate economic growth. it was the proof of concept. there was no more obvious tough market than satellites with its huge upfront. i

i think that brian lamb is an american treasure. i think we need more brian lamb's.and the new person elected is a squared away person so i wish him the best of luck. host: he is. he has gotten a lot of good comments from both sides. guest: following the trump trial, we have a whole chapter in our book about alvin bragg and i encourage people to read the chapter. host: what were you saying specifically about alvin bragg? guest: he got money from soros and ran on a promise if elected to prosecute donald trump. i think that if you are running on a promise to prosecute anyone, that raises red flags. he issued directives, like a lot of rogue prosecutors, the day he is elected to his prosecutors not to prosecute all classes of crime and crime goes up when you give a green light to criminals. host: pat, independent line. caller: thank you for taking my call. i am on the veterans memorial committee. we are going to honor our veterans at the memorial. kids don't really know who to look up to anymore. they get one side of it. who is telling the truth? you look at donald trump

i think that brian lamb is an american treasure. i think we need more brian lamb's.nderstand the new person elected is a squared away person so i wish him the best of luck. host: he is. he has gotten a lot of good comments from both sides. guest: following the trump trial, we have a whole chapter in our book about alvin bragg and i encourage people to read the chapter. host: what were you saying specifically about alvin bragg? guest: he got money from soros and ran on a promise if elected to prosecute donald trump. i think that if you are running on a promise to prosecute anyone, that raises red flags. he issued directives, like a lot of rogue prosecutors, the day he is elected to his prosecutors not to prosecute all classes of crime and crime goes up when you give a green light to criminals. host: pat, independent line. caller: thank you for taking my call. i am on the veterans memorial committee. we are going to honor our veterans at the memorial. kids don't really know who to look up to anymore. they get one side of it. who is telling the truth? you look at donald

caller: is brian lamb still wanting cameras in the supreme court? host: it is the position that is something we would like to see. caller: what would that bring? with the transcripts not be sufficient? what would it bring having the video cameras? host: in our case it highlights and extends things we already do as far as innovation of getting camera access to the house and senate and other aspects of washington, d.c. it would be another part of it. caller: you don't think that is the same argument that republicans were making in the judiciary committee yesterday regarding the transcripts versus the recordings of biden? host: to your point, i know the supreme court regularly releases audio of what goes on during the various court cases. they release it to us and we many times turn it around and put it to the viewing public and they do that on a regular basis already. caller: i know and i love listening to the audio of the supreme court, a lot better than reading the transcripts. i just think it helps. host: let's hear from albert in california, indep