>> brian moynahan inside the company is the front-runner.nkly, if he was the guy, he probably would already have the job. i actually think you'll hear more about bob, ceo of wachovia, former deputy secretary treasury. >> wasn't he the -- >> i'm not sure. i think in the end uch got a pretty thoughtful guy, you can stay with him when the company went under. >> andrew, be careful. it didn't go under, right, he sold that company before it went under. think what would have happened. he got a few dollars for his shareholders. >> that's the good news. what happened, as you recall, he did -- this is interesting, right in he sold the company for a dollar originally to citigroup in part because of the fdic effectively was going to take over. but then, as luck would have it, obviously wells fargo came back and the bo the company for more. >> jeffrey, mike collins, did chad gifford have any future in this chairmanship ceo thing on an interim basis. >> i don't think so. i think he was fairly but generously rewarded. he had been the ceo of predecessor ban

brian moynahan, joe price, and greg curl.ne of those people are going to be -- is going to be chosen to succeed lewis. >> so it won't be nobody from the outside. >> here is what i know is happening right now. by the way, this is a joint decision by the board and by the government. they're both weighing in. what they're weighing in is none of those people have the chops to run the company at least in the immediate future. what sources are telling me, sources that basically know what the government side wants. treasury, they're still a t.a.r.p. bank. what he is going on at the board level is the likelihood at least as of now is you're going to get someone else to do that. now, is it anoutsider? probably not. probably someone from the board. charles gifford, a lot of people put their money on him. or billboardman, t boardman. a lot of people think cliff gifford is the guy they go to in the immediate future and then he makes the decision from those six. >> we have sallie on "power lunch" on monday. >> she has zero chance of getti

brian and joe price and greg curl. i would say that of those six, the names they're most high on is moynahan and curl. moynahan, he's done a very good job over there. he's done a lot of different businesses, ran the investment bank for a while. the thinking is internally, that brian moynihan has the inside track. but i can tell you that investors would like them to go outside. and maybe give brian moynihan a little time to learn the ropes a little better before coming what would be ceo of one of the biggest banks in the world. bank of america is a massive enterprise now, particularly with the merrill lynch acquisition. but we're going to get some clarity about this in the coming weeks. there's a lot of talk about an emergency ceo. i believe the journal ran a headline on that. let me give a common sense here. if they -- the only way you hire an emergency ceo is if cuomo, the s.e.c. charges ken lewis -- ken lewis is going to be here to the end of the year, at least that's what they're saying. if the s.e.c. charges him, certainly he's got to go. if there's a criminal charge, he certainly has to go. the q