brian o'toole, glad you are here as well.[laughter] brian is currently a nonresident fellow at the atlantic council and prior to that he was serving as the senior advisor to the director of ofac. brian is a recognized expert on economic sanctions andgn is focusing on his work on the intersection of economics, national security and economic and financial sanctions. i will narrate that, prior to his time at the treasury he als served as an analyst in treasuries excuse me, prior to his time at ofac he served in the international affairs office and he also served at the central intelligence agency. ambassador dan really needs no introduction but i will simply say that prior to joining the atlantic council in his current capacity he served in the foreign service for 40 years and played a key role in designing and implementing american policy in europe after the fall of the soviet union and served as an assistant excuse me, assistant to the president and senior director for president clinton and bush. t he was the ambassador to pol

brian o'toole. brian, you're here as well. brian is currently a non-resident here at the atlantic council. immediately prior to that he was serving as the senior director-- senior advisor to the director of ofac. brian is a recognized expert on economic sanctions and is focusing his work on the intersection of economics, national security, and economic and financial sanctions. i'll just note that prior to his time at treasury, he also served as an analyst in treasuries, prior to his time in ofac he served as an anl international affairs and central intelligence agency. ambassador dan fried, really no introduction, but i will simply say that prior to joining the atlantic council in his current capacity, he served in the foreign service for 40 years. he played a key role in designing and implementing american policy in europe after the fall of the soviet union, he served as assistant-- excuse me, an assistant to the president and nsc senior director for presidents clinton and bush, he was the ambassador to poland and he also was

--brian o'toole: they're spectacularly good. i think the trump administration deserves credit for pushing those. when you come to -- come to implication -- implementation, there's a trick. people look at china as adversary. too many folks don't realize while there may be pockets of china, areas where they might be trying to undercut sanctions, china has and limitation issues of its own. they have a demand economy, but not a regulatory environment we have in the united states. make the mistake of projecting our own confidence, folks being able to enforce u.s. financial institutions, exporters, whoever else might be involved, the confidence of our private sector in doing this, the experience we have and assuming china can do that because they are china. i think that's a false assumption. if you're going to go after the chinese, i think you really need, especially at any significant level, we start going after banks, you really need to have those smoking guns of complicity. it's hard to draw that out, get that information. the folk

as someone from the atlantic council said, brian o'toole, who worked on the sanctions unit, says this needle. seeing how putin shrugs off the west plays to his advantage, it is not likely going to impact these individuals, and really impact what russia thinks. it will probably help him ahead of sunday's vote, anna. matt: they have gone even further, by the way, then shrugging off the west. they are basically pushing off this political news, but they still pushed ahead with a eurobond sale. what are the details of that? they are at the lowest in four years. the ministry says there is demand. they have institutional investors in europe and we may see demand from individuals who bring cash back to money. russian oligarchs who are stashing their money in london. we could see this as a possibility to move this money back to the motherland. ais announcement came as defiance to what is happening in the geopolitical sphere. theresa may tossed out 23 russian diplomats from london. there seems to be a lot of demand following the s&p upgrade two weeks ago in terms of the market. be anotherhis co