george carlin -- people i met, dave attell, brian regan, norma donald -- not just because i'm friends. before i met norm -- his delivery is unique, and i love it. >> a lot of comedy is taking pain and turning it into joy. that's what the show really is about. >> we are on the "charlie rose" show -- it's a love story to suffering. it's how something you never would have asked for is actually the mobilizing factor that gets you where you want to go. >> do you think people who watch "charlie rose" will say, i want to what's the show because it talks about a mobilizing factor? -- watch this show because it talks about a mobilizing factor? >> that the universal story. it's a very funny show. one of the things i like, because of the comedians, it's always believable that we would be making jokes. people are always being very funny. there is something underneath. you and i were excited about the idea of a religious guy, sweet guy, what parts of his soul will be maintained and what will it be like when he starts playing with fire and different types of lifestyles? that is something people rel