." >>> brian, thank you very much let's turn to palantir that just made its debut a few moments ago. it was adirect listing, a bit of a different animal. andrew ross sorkin joins us with the company's ceo alex karp. >> thank you for that. we do have alex karp here on a very big day cofounder of the company 17 years ago, alex. it's nice to see you today we've had lots of conversations over the years this has been probably one of the most highly anticipated offeringings in a long time. almost are year we would talk, i would invariably ask you are you going to go public are you going to list? invariably you wouldn't. so let's start with why now? >> well, first of all, thank you for having me. i would like to thank all those who stuck with us and built this company and our investors. over the years we've been skeptical about listing, and for lots of reasons, we really needed to build or products can enough protection so we would be ready to launch them into the public space we build out pg, which is our government product, our foundry product, built a way to maintain them so we wouldn't have to scale the number of people we have reached a base where o

ross perot? he seems to have followed the mantra of william jennings brian, harry s. truman, the buck stops here. >> douglas brinkley has written a biography about teddy roosevelt. you'll take that question. >> when i got to talk to mr. perot he has two evergreen , heroes and it's theodore roosevelt and winston churchill. and he takes a lot from them. we forget now that both of them were considered in t.r.'s case a damn cowboy when roosevelt became president, he was just -- mckinley was assassinated. and the republican party of mark hanna and the old mckinley machine didn't trust t.r. he was considered an iconoclast and individualist and the cowboy notion. ross perot grew up in texas, and his father was a cotton broker. but he also broke horses, went to cattle auctions, considered himself a bit of a texas cowboy. and everything about theodore roosevelt is impressed in ross and i think gave him courage, if t.r. can do a bull moose party, why can't i run in 1992? and churchill, it goes without saying, anybody who loves grit, winston churchill is your figure and the two