brian ross is very addressing story. and he, he was going to run it. and i said, you have to run this if you're going to do these interviews, you have to write, i'm still in the military. yeah, the pentagon come after you ask them questions about this and don't want nothing supporting. and he said he would. and then one of his, one of the people working for him who you're familiar with buddy's word. so my question is do nothing grand. and then our last day there was a lot of problems. they met very big problems there and i didn't take a shot were start serious harper, something serious? hearing the story before around story the the justice department asked him not to run story and all what all the way to the top is and the person not the wrong story. and they said sharply criticized. but you still want to rush magazine awarded, and there was no way of you criticize somebody, you show me how does that work? and you know the old saying the truth is the best defense and that you had behind you, joe. you and i went on to write a book together about the i w

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ross. and brian yeah thank you. so much for having us common. bring smith is an ocean farmer he's made it his mission to reconfigure we harvest to see. hey welcome aboard. start us up. the good thing about ocean farming is we don't need to change. alright just a quick run out right. it used to be efficient yeah i yeah i was in the bering sea fishing cotton crab just at the height of industrialized fishing and most the fish i was catcher was going to mcdonald's for the fish sandwich well. that is like the quintessential the epitome of the industrial fishing exactly -- so then you know i was on the bering sea in the cod stocks crashed into the land back rose from and so i went to become a farmer on the salmon farms because i was so the answer overfishing. but it was just as bad right you know using pesticides antibiotics polluting -- you know i mean we're essentially running pig farms at sea. so i ended up -- down here and make me made myself as a you know what we're gonna three ocean farmer what is that what is a three d. motion. five serving by