for more, we're joined by brian schaffner, one of those academics who collected the raw data that theoneous study was based on. schaffner is a professor in the department of political science at the university of massachusetts and marts. -- amherst. he recently co-wrote a piece in the "washington post" titled, "trump wants to investigate purported mass voter fraud. we pre-debunked his evidence." tell us how he got it wrong. he is citing your study. our study,t citing he is citing a study that uses our data. i work with the team that put out a very large scale survey of american adults and one of the things we do is ask people a lot of questions and then we match the survey respondents to vote files. now these other researchers from other universities, took our survey data, which we make publicly available, downloaded it and basically took a question that really was not designed to noncitizens, but they used it for that purpose. they identified a small number of what they thought were noncitizens and found among that small group, there were about 14% of that group were basically had a

amy: i want to thank john bonifaz, dale ho, a professor brian schaffner. that does it for our show.ill be speaking here in park city utah at the park city at 1:00 today. people can check our website. democracy now! is looking for feedback from people who appreciate the closed captioning. e-mail your comments to outreach@democracynow.org or mail them to democracy now! p.o. box 693 new york, new york 10013. [captioning made possible by democracy now!] announcer: this is a production of china central television americica. walter: how w do you inspirere teens to volunteerer? the numbes araren't good. only a quartrterf americans age 16 and older are making time to volunteteer at leasast once a year, so volunteerism is at a record low in the united states. that's according to a 2014 u.s. bureau of labor statistics report. this week on "full frame," empowering the next generation of volunteers to make an impact worldwide. i'm mike walter coming to you from the heart of new york's times s squarere. les take it "full frame."

. >> professor brian schaffner, thanks very much for joining us. >> thank you very much, wolf. >>> let's little bit about what we just heard with our correspondents, analysts and commentators. david swerdlick, let's start this conversation with you because this is a really sensitive and important issue right now. the assertion by the president of the united states of such widespread illegal voting. >> yeah, and as the professor said and others have said today, right, this has been widely debunked. the whole broader notion of voter fraud has been debunked, of widespread voter fraud has been debunked in study after study, by the brennan center, by the advancement project. arguably liberal groups, but still there's not this evidence of widespread voter fraud and yet president trump persists with it. i think there's two possible reasons, neither of them are good, wolf. one is is that he wants to keep alive this issue of voter fraud because there will be elections down the road. the other is maybe just as simple as this is the first time he's run for office, and unlike a career politician who

brian schaffner, one of the academics behind the study, told cnn trump is misinterpreting the study, calling trump claims absurd and not even plausible and saying -- "of the people who we were sure were non-citizens, we could not find any who actually cast a vote." in news from trump's cabinet nominations, the senate has confirm south carolina governor nikki haley to be the u.s. ambassador to the united nations after a 96-4 vote. the senate banking committee has approved ben carson to be the next secretary of the department of housing and urban development . his nomination still has to go before the full senate. trump has tapped to more members of the far right wing owlet breitbart me to join is a administration. breitbart's national security editor sebastian gorka is likely to join trump's national security council. immigration reporter julia hahn has been named special assistant to the president. trump's chief strategist steven bannon is the former head of breitbart, which frequently publishes racist, sexist, anti-immigrant, and xenophobic news. trump has also tapped john gore, a l