david axelrod said this about brian schweitzer today on "morning joe." >> he's anti-gun control very on the nra side of that issue. he has strong detractors because of the nature of his support for drilling and other aspects of the oil industry which is part of the economy in that part of the country. he does not have the perfect record to run an insurgent campaign from the left. >> joining me now, adam green, co-founder of the progressive change committee and karen finney. karen, how much room is on hillary clinton's left for a democratic run? >> i think there is a fair amount but i think this idea that she's going to go hard right is a little ridiculous. i don't think anybody would see hillary as a hard right. she might be a center-left person but a hard right i think is unfair. >> adam green, you know, if she runs unopposed, i imagine you would expect certainly a drift to what we might call the center. >> it's possible. >> unopposed in the democratic primaries. >> i think brian schweitzer was saying she will have to pick a side. the corporate wing, including people like bill clint

the former montana governor, brian schweitzer telling iowa democrats what only yesterday that secretary clinton's decision to support military inaction in iraq was the wrong decision. what's go on here? schweitzer, his name has been thrown out as well as foenpoten democratic candidate even though he's not well-known. >> reporter: that's right. he's throwing his own name out there. brian schweitzer a former two-term democratic governor of montana, self-styled prairie pop lift who likes to talk about economic issues. he came through iowa last night and gave a speech to a liberal group called progress iowa here. and he, you know, brought up hillary clinton's iraq war vote. he didn't mention her by name but it was clear who he was talking. tack a listen to what he said last night in iowa, wolf. >> anybody who runs in the cycle, whether democrats or republicans, if they were in the united states senate and voted with george bush to go to iraq when i'd say 98% of america knows it was a folly, a waste of treasure and blood, and if they voted to go to iraq, there will be questions for them. en

ruth, is this -- from brian schweitzer's standpoint, is this the perfect way to tell hillary clintont? there is going to be some competition. >> it's one way. i think he said a few other things that are also very intriguing. he talked about how the progressives in this country don't want a corporatist to be governor -- rather to be president. i think like you, i have kind of a soft spot for these midwestern populists who are not fans of wall street and who are not afraid to say that as much as there a s a left and right division in this country, there is a top and bottom division. and the democratic party should be more progressive and should stand up for little guy. and i think that's the case that he is making. and i think there are a few other people who are going to get out and make that case. and they're making it against hillary clinton who not coincidentally last week was on a lovefest tour of wall street speaking at goldman sachs, sit do you think with the carlisle group and really indicating she would be a friendly candidate for wall street. so i think there there is a real

a dark horse candidate, brian schweitzer has indicated he might launch a bid for the white house.told real clear politics there's a whole lot of america that looks at each other and says well, there's 340 million people living in america. isn't there somebody else other than a bush or clinton who can be president in these modern times? it could be that the 75 year old governor of california, there he is jerry brown, who began his career in 1969 might be considering a fourth run for the white house. what a run he's had. the l.a. times said some are pushing him to try for another try for the white house even if it means taking on hillary rodham clinton. let me ask you this, you study the numbers, numbers, numbers. i would like to see a fight for the primaries. almost like the crazy fight i expect on the other side, for interest. and i think the issues ought to be debated. are we going into another iraq? i want to hear them say we're not going into another middle east war. >> there is going to be a primary, whether hillary wins or not. >> i'm hoping for something where it might just

martin o'malley, 18% and brian schweitzer, 16%.e certainly know hillary clinton and joe biden. do these numbers surprise you in any way, wolf? >> they all like them and -- excuse me. these are self-identified democrats in the poll and they clearly all know hillary clinton and joe biden. most people in iowa, including democrats, don't know much about brian or martin o'malley but they know a lot about hillary clinton and joe biden. so once again, obviously if hillary clinton decides to run and that's still an if, if she decides to run, she's got a very strong opportunity. if joe biden decides to run, he's got a strong opportunity. some people think if hillary runs, joe biden won't run. we shall see. we still have time to sort it all out. >> and that is so key, we still have some time. i remember when michele bachmann was running in the republican polls and a week later everything changed and kept on changing until election time. >> ashleigh, a couple cautionary points. if you go back -- >> i think i was in high school then. tell me w

had to pick somebody who follow through and challenge her other than joe biden, it would be brian schweitzerthe former governor of montana who is a populist. >> and larry, as we move on to our naughty list, the losers of 2013, i'm going to start with you on this. did president obama land on this list? i think i sort of know the answer. at least i know the answer that i would give. what do you say? >> oh, yes. i would put him at the top of the losers list. he put himself at the top of the loses list. he admitted he had had the worst year of his five as president. now, you know every year is different. i'd have to say 2014 doesn't look a whole lot better. it's the midterm election year. obama is down to 41%. frankly, the sixth year of a two-term presidencicy usually not always but usually is not a very good year for the incumbent white house party. so i think the president's going to have another tough year. >> should he have been a loser this year? >> he had a bad year if you judge him by what he wanted to get accomplished and what he got accomplished. the three big things he ran on he wanted

he likes d s brian schweitzer t come in and shake things up. >> what other kinds of variables are theutsiders are significant. >> there are millions of dollars floating out in political money that may want to influence it. most important to a campaign who the third party or parties will be against. >> the latest poll in pennsylvania which is a big swing state shows how close a clinton christie race will be. >> very interesting. peter. thank you very much. >> well millions of target shoppers targeting eidentity thieves. our legal panel will be weighing in on this. ups and fedex and how customers are coping. i've got a big date, but my sinuses are acting up. it's time for advil ld and sinus. [ male announcer ] truth is that won't relieve all your symptoms. hmm? [ male annouer ] new alka seltzer plus-d reliev more symptoms than any other behind the counter liquid gel. thanks for the tip. [ male announcer ] no problem. oh...a hair products. aisle 9. [ inhales deeply ] oh what a relief it is. ♪ s. >>> not news alert the suspect pleading not guilty there he is paul anty knee ciancia enterin

i talked a potential presidential candidate a few weeks ago, that what he would propose, brian schweitzervernor of montana. we'll see what is left of healthcare in the post-obama era. jamie: it is trying to stay up and running for people to attempt to get coverage. thank you so much. nice to meet you. >> thanks. jamie: gregg. gregg: well despite the troubled cks for the obamaut and numerous administration the president says that the economy is on the way up, poised for a major rebound in the new year. >> as we head into next year with an economy stronger than it was when we started the year. more americans are finding work and experiencing the pride of a paycheck. our businesses are positioned for new growth and new jobs, and i firmly believe that 2014 can be a breakthrough year for america. gregg: doug mckelway is live in honolulu where the president is on vacation. so, doug, there is good news on the economy, but you know still a lot of uncertainty out there? >> reporter: that's right. on the good news front, take for example, the latest economic barometer which came out from the commer

this is the former montana governor, brian schweitzer. he's thinking about running for the democratic presidential nomination and had this allusion to hillary clinton, who is also thinking about it. >> george bush got a bunch of democrats to vote to go to that war. i was just shaking my head in montana. i'm asking you to pick the leaders that are going to say we're not going to make those mistakes. >> hillary clinton when she was a senator voted to go to war in iraq. >> and this young guy who had no chance of being the democratic nominee was a senator from illinois, barack obama, i think, used that in 2008. he happens to be president. so what is schweitzer out there doing, trying to test. can you recreate the 2008 dynamic in 2016 against hillary clinton. if you're hillary clinton, you are probably thinking huh? i'm not even sure he runs in the end but if not, it's not smart, if you will, i don't want to call it not stupid, but is there any traction against this woman, why not try what worked last time. >> sometimes the best record is no r

one former governor brian schweitzer is one of the names floating around as a possible democratic candidater and the sitting president. ? an interview with the weekly standard, he said the question we have is will it be the hillary that leads the progressives or the hillary that says i'm already going to win the democratic nomination so i can shift hard right on day one. we can't afford any more hard right. we had eight years of george bush. now we have five years of obama who i would argue in many cases has been a corporatist. schweitzer has stopped short of saying he would run for president, but he has said he is interest in the the job. >> john heilman, what's up here? what's he doing? >> he's a feisty fellow. >> checking it out. >> i think people will start to dip their toes in the water. he is a populist and a pretty full-throated one. it's the way in which -- if anybody could challenge hillary clinton in 2016 they'll do it from the left. he was a popular governor of montana, but the obvious point to make about him -- >> he didn't strike me as a left winger in montana. >> but he's got

one more quick point, brian schweitzer of montana, a liberal, took a shot at her, criticized her vote was in the senate. there's the earliest test we've seen of 2016, 2008. can you run to the left of hillary clinton with the iraq war vote that barack obama used brilliantly to become the nominee and the president of the united states. can you do it again? somebody is out there testing that. >> i had not thought of that, obviously because you're a political genius. >> right. that's the trap door. go ahead. now i'm on the wire. >> it's actually -- she almost has to work harder to stop the campaign than actually start it. she knows she's going to get these questions. she has the answer prepared. but additionally you have schweitzer taking a hit at her which means it will be harder for her to not run than actually run. >> you cannot look at the possibility, the portfolio of democratic candidates and come to somebody, at this point, at this point, i underline that, as you view as a serious challenger to hillary clinton. you see her out there, she'll watch the democrats, like schweitzer, che

you think it's going to martin o'malley or brian schweitzer or elizabeth warren.ree with you on biden. chuck, thank you very much. we'll see you on "the daily rundown." julie thank you as well. ben smith, stay with us if you can. coming up the year that wasn't. the ap's adam geller says 2013 will be best known for missed opportunities. he joins us next to explain that, but first, bill karins with a check on the forecast. bill? >> more of that four-letter word, mika. >> oh, god. no. >> unfortunately this one is coming in during a tuesday during the day as everyone is driving to work in new england. this morning, a coating of snow in indianapolis to columbus, little quick mover near cincinnati too. be careful out there. only dropped to about an inch or less, but still slippery. for the next storm. first the cold blast comes in. temperatures really dropping now across the great lakes and the northern plains. that's going to come through the northeast. here comes the snow. the timing of it, monday night near chicago, detroit, pittsburgh, overnight, and then tomorrow m

brian schwizer just said, in an interview that will air next week on iowa public television, iowa public radio reporter reports that schweitzer're a democracy and we don't just choose the royal families. now we're talking about a bush or clinton again. i think in america we're always looking for leadership that takes us to the future. we're not often looking in the rearview mirror for our leadership. >> for the clintons to suggest they're not friendly with the people on wall street would not be authentic. i said it is harder for a woman to be an angry populist. and being angry and expressing rage about wealthy people making money and taxing them as a way to make up for it. everybody in this country whether they're middle class or less affluent want to be more affluent. they all want to be the rich person. a better message is let's grow from the middle class out. that's the message that hillary clinton needs. >> i agree. every time i've seen a candidate about to lose the election on the democratic side, i've almost always been rooting for that person. they go populist. ted kennedy, you were with him when he lost to carter. the