they gave us -- brian stevenson is a lawyer and one of my personal heroes in montgomery, alabama. there is a straight one particular case and also attempt to redesign, it's a narrative on one hand but it's a book about what our on our basic values in society and how can you look at those in different ways. he's another author that i think it sets apart because he to the subject and he talk about mass incarceration and he talked about it in a different way. he talked about it through he opened the door for that conversation i humanizing the story, telling a dramatic narrative about one particular case and at the same time -- about what justices, what what mercy is, and who we are as a society, what the values are in our society. [inaudible] snows another -- >> they talk about the life of jc's music and that also fits the model of what i want to do. there's a lot of music biographies, it's a music biography is the desire to understand what rap music was and what period of time the rap music came out of. the 80s, and then re- organizing our understanding of that. on a personal level

so, i have a friend, brian stevenson, who says that we shouldn't judge people by the worst things they ever did. i want to get your reaction to that idea, but as part of your journey, tell us about the worst thing that you have ever done. that's a big part of the book. >> guest: yeah. i totally agree. i have had an opportunity to meet him a couple of times, and got a chance to talk to him a few times. i really high lie respect -- >> host: he represents people -- a famous death penalty lawyer, won the macarthur genius award. >> guest: yeah. for me, the worst thing i ever done was committing murder in 1991. i shot and and caused a man's death, and by far one of the worth things you can do, and i made that unfortunate decision at age of 19, and devastated a family, took somebody's husband, a son, daughter, a father, a family, and one of the things that stays with know this day, and one of the ranids do the work die, and the city because i never want another child to grow up with that type of -- one of those things that never goes away. >> host: i want to talk about how this nerdy kid, who

so, i have a friend, brian stevenson who says that we shouldn't not judge people by the worst things they ever did. so i want to get your reaction to that. as part of your journey, tell us about the worst thing you've ever done. >> i certainly agree, and i've had the opportunity to meet him a couple of times, so i've gotten a chance to talk to moot couple of times and i have respect he is a famous lawyer, that to me, the worst dad ever done was committed murder in 1991, i shot and killed a man caused his death and it was by far one of the worst things you can do. you know i made other unfortunate decisions at the age of 19 and devastated family. i took somebody's husband, son, brother, of from the family and it's one of the worst days to this day. it's one of the reasons i do some of the work i do in the city because i would never want another child to grow up with that type of burden. it is a burden burden that never goes away. >> host: i want to talk about how this nerdy kid who is kind of a bookworm takes this journey that i won't say ends it because your journey still going on bu

i have a friend, brian stevenson, who says that we should not judge people by the worst thing they ever did. so i want to get your reaction to that idea. but as fart of your journey -- part -- tell us about the worse thing you have ever done. that is a big part of the book. >> yeah. i mean, i agree. i have had an opportunity to meet him a couple times and talk to him a few times and someone i highly respects. >> host: he represents people on death row. he is a famous death penalty warer and won the mcarthur genius award. >> guest for me, the worst thing i did was commit a murder in 1991 shooting and tragically causing a man's death. it is by far one of the worst things you can do. i made that decision at the age of 19 and devastated a family, you know, took somebody's husband, son, brother, father from a family and it is one of things that stays with me to this day. it is the reason i do so much work i do in the city because i never want another child to grow up with that type of burden because it is a burden that never goes away. >> host: i want to talk about how this nerdy kid who is

will your work in south carolina in any way intersect with the work that has been done by brian stevenson of the equal justices hisiative where organization has attempted to place landmarks on places where there were known lynchings throughout the south. i am just curious in terms of monuments,oning and will your work potentially ryansect with the work cap is doing yet coherent historian, he is a criminal defense lawyer. and i hope that it would. it goes back to my earlier point. that was too narrow a term. as to those moments of tragedy and violence that i think we need to recognize, certainly across the south more than we have done so before, not only by way of historical markers but also in a -- in our school systems in other ways, to change just the dominant narrative of searching the southern history and american history, so that is something i wouldn't -- someone i would look forward to working with to find out how we can work with him and in others and going back earlier -- i was talking about bringing people of different points of view -- and so we have museums that are safe place

he discusses his professional duties as well as his work with the likes of jay-z, brian stevenson, anduthor of the award winning book "between the world and me." sunday evening at so10:00 easte, book releases for tom hilton, "more human." former senior adviser to british prime minister david cameron and co-founder of crowd pac argues we need to redesign our economic and political systems to meet the needs of americans today. then on memorial day, extra day of "book tv" featured annette gordon-reid, the intellectual life of thomas jefferson. and npr's diane ream on the right to die movement. go to booktv.org for the complete weekend schedule. >>> as the united kingdom decides whether or not to leave the european union, a establish parliamentary committee held a hearing focuses on the imply cases for scotland. a vote on the referendum is scheduled for june 23rd. this is just over two hours. >> everybody, order, order, and welcome to scottish affairs committee. two sessions in scotland and the yearen union referendum. we're very grateful we have john edwards from the campaign in scotland.

he discusses his professional duties as well as his work with the likes of jay-z, brian stevenson and especially the author of the award winning book "between the world and me." and sunday evening at 10:00 eastern, a book release party for steve hilton and his book, "more human," designing a world where people come first. mr. hilton, a former senior advisor to british prime minister david cameron, and co-founder of crowd pack, argues that we need to redesign our economic and political systems to meet the needs of americans today. and then on monday, memorial day, an extra day of book tv. featuring annette gordon reid and peter ornoff on the intellectual life of thomas jefferson. the importance of the 10 commandments. and npr's on the right to die movement. go to booktv.org for the complete weekend schedule. and now a house hearing examines how airports and airlines are being impacted by t.s.a. screening procedures, including long security lines, missed flights and passengers being stranded at airports. held by a house homeland security subcommittee, this is about 90 minutes. mr. katko