as brian welch said, i am randy shepherd. i ended up spending is my life as chief justice of the indiana supreme court. i now sit doing senior service in our intermediate court, and i have an appointment over at the indiana university school of law. corliss,ht is rebecca who after a career as a trial judge an entire practice, spent more than a decade on the colorado supreme court. she left there perhaps 10 or 11 years ago to be the founding of the institute for the advancement of the american legal system. she does all sorts of research and programmatic work on the improvement of courts and the improvement of legal education and of the legal profession. and then professor william henderson, certainly a man of the circuit, if there ever was one. after his legal education at the university of chicago, came a clerk at the seventh circuit, but happily has spent his recent career at the indiana university school of law. nobody whohere is has done more intriguing work about the future of our and becky than bill corliss. i am going

[applause] we have persuaded brian welch to preside over q&a and comments and all of us are glad to respond to anything you have heard any of the three of us say. >> i don't see any raised hands. do we have any questions? were going to try to walk the microphone around so people can hear the question. judge barker, you have the floor. >> the morning. >> going back to your last slid slide, the a in the be, is that reflective of the criteria that the law schools use in choosing law students? >> guilty as charged. i say of judge barker gets up there she's gonna throw us a fastball. the law schools, we feel like we are locked into a positional competition through u.s. news & world report so we do look for undergraduate credentials to admit on and that's how we award scholarship money. this is how most of the 200 schools to that. maybe some of our self regulated organizations can get together and figure out ways to break that logjam because there's all sorts of consequences on society and i think we will learn that we will come to regret where were at. having been on the inside a law school, not

[applause] >> we persuaded brian welch to preside over q&a and comments, and all of us are glad to respond to anything that you heard in your the three of us say. >> i don't see any raised hands. do we have any questions? were going to try to walk a microphone around the people can hear the question. judge barker, you have the floor. >> good morning. is this on? going back to your last slide, bill henderson, the a and the b, is a reflective of the criteria for law schools use in choosing law students? >> guilty as charged. [laughing] yeah, i say to myself judge a party gets up come she's going to throw us a fastball. i was right about that. the law schools, we feel like we are locked into a kind of a positional competition through "u.s. news & world report." we do not for undergraduate credentials to admit on and that's how we reward scholarship money. writ large this is how most of the 200 schools, aba accredited schools do that. maybe some of our self regulated organizations can get together and figure out ways to break the logjam. clearly there's all sorts of deleterious consequences on

as brian welch said i'm