part of the money paid brickmill and quadriga art was designated in tax filings to pay for educational. those solicitations for donations, that tell you all about the struggles of the vets have and why you should donate, that's the educational awareness and promotion material. >> the accounting is somewhat confusing to the public and so they can get tricked if they look at these tax forms, or look at these superficial reviews of charities on the internet because what they're doing is they're calling that solicitation that makes you aware of the injured veteran a charitable program. be that's not what -- but that's not what people want to pay for. people want to pay for substantial aid or assistance to injured veterans. >> reporter: the national veterans foundation hotline is run out of a fourth floor office in this building near los angeles's international airport. the group told us they wouldn't speak on camera. we decided to go and see them anyway. hey, rich. >> hello, you're drew? >> reporter: yeah. just wanted to ask you one more time if we could chat. >> as we said, we have told y

took in $22 million or $20 million and gave $18 million of it back to quadriga and its subsidiary brickmill. they said they weren't happy with how this all worked out. and they have severed ties? this and are now trying to break their contract. >> senator, big part of what drew has uncovered seems to be kind of a shell game. the charity dvnf, they take credit for enormous amounts of money on the tax returns, but deliver a lot of stuff to veterans groups, the veteran groups say they don't need, that it's basically useless, surplus dress shoes, hats, thousands of bags of coconut m&m's and they claim it as goods in kind. do you think the irs needs to take a hard look at what this group does for veterans? >> there's no question, there's some kind of a shell game, some kind of a scam going on here. and i don't know who's getting the money. it's certainly not the disabled vets who are getting the money. i have a hunch there are other organizations like this. it may be partly the disabled veterans and they're ripping people off. we need to get to the bottom of it. >> drew, you have been struggling