was there but he wasn't there, bridgette kelley made a point of being there, do you read into that atpurpose to that? >> absolutely, steve. i think that was an act of defiance. she was saying i'm here. i'm part of this case. now whether it was defiance at the governor or defiance at the investigators remains to be seen but her lawyer made this extraordinary statement at a press conference, where he said look, my client is unemployed now, thanks to governor christie who called her stupid and a liar. she's a single mom of four. does anybody have a job for her? sounds like she's mad and it sounds like she's mad at the governor. >> that sounds like somebody who would like to cut a deal to talk a little bit and that gets me to the question for you, brian. one thing i've been trying to figure out is are there, is there potentially a federal crime here and if it's ultimately determined by the u.s. attorney it's not a federal crime, maybe that it was a state crime but not a federal crime, is there then no role for the u.s. attorney? >> well, look, paul fishman is as we say in tv, the showrunn