i just interviewed a guy named brien james. have you ever come across this guy?y during his time as the vinlander, he was a big name on the radar and, you know, really associated with a lot of violence. the vinlander, the vinlanders in general were known to be a very volatile, violent group that, you know, they had a guy whose nickname was "the butcher," and so, i mean this is... >> thompson: this is the guy with "murder" tattooed on his throat? >> yeah, right, right. so, i mean, there was a number of very violent incidents they were involved in. >> thompson: simi says that while the proud boys may have worked hard to push into the mainstream, many still subscribe to extremist beliefs. >> so, this is, you know, a t-shirt in reference to the mass slaughter of jewish people during the holocaust, that stands for "six million wasn't enough." their view is not to deny the holocaust, but to say the holocaust didn't go far enough. >> thompson: and so, he's flying proud boys' colors, and these clearly neo-nazi ideas here. you know, we get fixated on all these different g