brings his great experience having served in the federal bureau of investigation, the gentleman from brightonhank you to my friend from california and, mr. speaker, yesterday i think was a very, very important symptom for all of us to understand. when you -- and it's easy to get confused, by the way, in who the good guys are and who the bad guys are when you take the fight on the war on terror from a proactive intelligence approach to a law enforcement approach. things get pretty murky in a hurry, and everything slows down. and information exchanges slow down. and what we've done is what they tried to do in the middle of the night is sneak in a provision that would actually when you read the entire thing treat terrorists with a special carveout that not even white-collar criminals, organized crime members, extortionists as american citizens would get. that your interrogator could be brought up on charges for what you believed might be incidences that offend you. unbelievable. but that's exactly what happens when you're confused about who the bad guys are. this bill should be known for what it

a hardworking member of the intelligence committee, a veteran of the f.b.i., the gentleman from brightonr. rogers. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for 2 1/2 minutes. mr. rogers: thank you, mr. speaker. something fundamentally different has happened in the last year. we have fundamentally changed the way we deal with terrorists in the united states. we should absolutely fully have that debate on the policy of that switch. why? because it has had tremendous consequences. think about this. the c.i.a. officers who given direction by department of justice interrogated and debriefed and got some 70% of what we know about al qaeda through their debriefings are now being treated as criminals. foreign trained criminals are being brought to the united states and being treated as americans. the fact that we would take a terrorist off a plane who had just attempted to kill some 300 people and the people on the ground and say you have the right to remain silent. wrong. you don't. i need to know if there's anybody else out there. i need to know where the training camp was. i need