. >> commissioner: reverend bringham. from the episcopal diocese of california. >> i've been in those seats and know how long the meetings can go and i'll be very brief. i'm the founder of california interfaith power and light. we have 700 congregations in california and you know all the reasons we need to divest whether it's focussing on climate change or air pollution or the poor people suffer the most. those reasons are all quite evident and you all already know them. but what you may not know is the episcopal diocese of california has divested as well. we have 400 clergy in the diocese of california and it was a struggle because the retiring clergy depend on their pension. they haven't made a lot of money over these years of being clergy and it wasn't an easy thing to get that resolution passed but we were able -- because we brought in a the woman's name is nancy found from double bottom line and was able to show how it's physically possible and beneficial to divest and get into green technologies and renewable energy