our guests are allida black and doug brinkley.ary in west grove, pennsylvania, please go ahead with your question. >> why is she viewed as the most disliked and loved first lady of all times? if she was here today, how would she deal the 24/7 media? >> oh, i got that one. eleanor took a profoundly controversial issues of civil stand on the rights, women working, women traveling unescorted. she spoke out by the second term on legal and constitutional questions that made people a little nervous. and especially the daughters of the american revolution who looked at her and called her an unfit woman and really did not want her in the white house. her poll numbers throughout and the letters she received as well as the hate mail and the largest fbi file that we have in american history up until that time shows the extent to which the american public really revered her. but the people that disliked her, disliked her intensely. she really was a rorschach test for what you thought about democracy and social upheaval at the time. if it was

presidential historian douglas brinkley. thank you for joining us.nd here it is. the handshake with castro wasn't president obama's only diplomatic move. he literally embraced the president who called u.s. tactics a quote, breach innational law and took the step of canceling a u.s. state dinner that was to be held in her honor. whether it is the has not shake with castro or the embrace, strategic moves or just being polite on the dais? >> both. of course, he's the president is being polite. if he would have stiffed raul castro, refused to shake his handled, that would have made a lot of news ask would have been an ugly moment for nelson mandela and brazil and tuesday have been doing a lot of intelligence over the surveillance over brazil. it may have been a healing hug. i don't think the president could have handled the situation much better than he did yesterday. and i believe that alan gross needs to be freed. if that haled shake is the beginning of maybe getting him free from cuba, it was worth it. >> absolutely. let's talk about memorial protocol

presidential historian douglas brinkley. thank you for joining us.ut it last night and here it is. the handshake with castro wasn't president obama's only diplomatic move. he literally embraced the president who called u.s. tactics a quote, breach innational law and took the step of canceling a u.s. state dinner that was to be held in her honor. whether it is the has not shake with castro or the embrace, strategic moves or just being polite on the dais? >> both. of course, he's the president is being polite. if he would have stiffed raul castro, refused to shake his handled, that would have made a lot of news ask would have been an ugly moment for nelson mandela and brazil and tuesday have been doing a lot of intelligence over the surveillance over brazil. it may have been a healing hug. i don't think the president could have handled the situation much better than he did yesterday. and i believe that alan gross needs to be freed. if that handled shake is the beginning of maybe getting him free from cuba, it was worth it. >> absolutely. let's talk abo

as opposed to the use of assassination and coup d'etat as the way of transferring power professor brinkley just let me follow up on that very quickly you mentioned that there is a huge difference a huge gap between peaceful assembly and violent riots but i wonder if that gap is really saw a so wide because many of the revolutions we have seen in the past. have started as a peaceful revolution zambian know scientifically that crowds any crowds are more prone to violence than individuals. although done not necessarily because we know that there are big mass rallies just. fifty years ago the march on washington by african-americans in the united states had zero violence and it was highly effective in changing laws partly because they had an ethic of nonviolence adopted by martin luther king from gandhi that that in forced norm of nonviolence they were determined not to be violent even though they often were victims of government violence at the time but is that necessarily a ruler or an exception because we can also bring up of the example of nelson mandela who are who found that it is pretty

studied at the university of pennsylvania is a speech that jimmy carter gave, famous speech, douglas brinkley is here. written the best book on jimmy carter, the unfinished presidency, but he gave a speech called the national malaise speech. and lines that up to next to the franklin roosevelt first gnawing -- inaugural in 1943 the american people were ratifying the new deal in 1979 the more than people had more or less abandoned the new deal. what you see is a change in circumstance. i think the g.o.p. right now -- the vicissitudes have a lot to do with circumstance, but i would say -- this is going back to the '50s and the depth that the bushes acknowledge and others in the republican party. what dwight eisenhower did in selection of vice presidents, at the blackstone in 1952, picking charlie wilson and other business people -- he is member who greatly admired the private seconder of america, and looked for ways to delegate authority to the private seconder in -- sector in his era. that's my response. what would you say? >> i would seek this rule at -- some may be old enough to remember zeke

the fire started around 4:30 yesterday afternoon on brinkley road near the rosecroft shopping center. no one was hurt but 27 people are displaced including 10 children. >>> new this morning, things are getting back to normal at phoenix sky harbor international after cleaning crews found white powder inside a u.s. airways plane. the aircraft had just arrived in phoenix from cancun. police now believe the substance was baby powder. this all comes a few days after a man was arrested for running around on the tarmac at that airport. police say he came close enough to the aircraft that he was actually able to touch it. 6:32 now, that incident put a similar one this week at north liberty has airport across the country reviewing their security policies. >> that includes the airports here in our area. news 4's transportation reporter adam tuss takes a look. >> reporter: the stories are disturbing, two men, one at each airport jumping fences and then making it on to the runways. here at reagan national where there's not much distance between planes pulling in and a chain linked fence, these in

now on the diplomatic front, presidential historian douglas brinkley. raul castro and president obama, same stage, separated by just four speakers on the official program. how does this work? do they look the other way? do they exchange pleasantries? do they take this as a real opportunity for diplomacy? >> i'm sure raul castro would like to have it as an opportunity for diplomacy, but i'm sure president obama doesn't want to be seen as too buddy-buddy with somebody who's seen as a nemesis to the united states. you don't want to do the big smile and meet and greet with castro. you don't want to be winging foreign policy, making big decisions at a funeral. however, away from cameras' glare, they might be able to get a word in. if obama can sneak it in without being taped doing it, he might try it. >> i heard a story from somebody in charge of white house security who was telling me about an event like this that provided an opportunity for a high-ranking u.s. official to meet with a u.s. enemy, but it did provide an opportunity that never would have been

we are satisfied that justice has been done but unfortunately, no amount of justice will brinkley back. >> all of this shocks the whole country, but the man was defiant to the end, insisting he was a soldier of allah, acting on his commands and he had a command to killle a british soldier. he looked at me directly and kissed a copy of the koran he'd been holding. >> the two denied they took instructions from anybody but god. >> what happens next? >> well, the judge said he wasn't going to pass sentence on them yet. murder carries a life term in the u.k., but the judge has discretion. he said he said waiting for new truckies from europe. these two men may not actually ever known as prison, that's perfectly possible. the other will happen in the first week of january is that the parliament here has all the intelligence and security committee, which has been meeting to cuss how it could be that even though m.i.5, the security agent here had the police at the highest level knew about these two men historically had no idea they were capable of doing like this. >> when they knew about them,

now on the diplomatic front, presidential historian douglas brinkley. raul castro and president obama, same stage, separated by just four speakers on the official program. how does this work? do they look the other way? do they exchange mess andtries? do they take this as a real opportunity for diplomacy? >> i'm sure raul castro would like to have it as an opportunity for diplomacy, but i'm sure president obama doesn't want to be seen as too buddy-buddy with somebody who's seen as a nemesis to the united states. you don't want to do the big smile and meet and greet with castro. you don't want to be winging foreign policy, making big decisions at a funeral. however, away from cameras' grae glare, they might be able to get a word in. if obama can sneak it in without being taped doing it, he might try it. >> i heard a story from somebody in charge of white house security who was telling me about an event like this that provided an opportunity for a high-ranking u.s. official to meet with a u.s. enemy, but it did provide an opportunity that never would have

we will speak live with presidential historian douglas brinkley.ette, you celebrate a little win. nicorette mini delivers fast craving relief in just 3 minutes. double your chances of quitting with nicorette mini. [ female announcer ] just about anywhere you use sugar, you can use splenda® no calorie sweetener. splenda® lets you experience the joy of sugar without all the calories. think sugar, say splenda™ >>> 12 minutes after the hour now. president obama and his family are arriving in hawaii early this morning for 16 days. he will take a breather from what most agree has been a lousy year for him in washington. a notion he shrugs off. a cnn poll bears out his tough poll. the approval rating remains at 41%. all-time low reached last month. that is down 55% from last january. before he left town, the president met with reporters for an end of year news conference. listen. >> has this been the worst year of your presidency? >> i got to tell you, julie, that's not how i think about. it i have now been in office five years. close to five years. was r

. >>> from abc news, here is david brinkley. >> and here's a live picture from the town square in capetownca. nelson mandela, out of prison for only a few hours, has arrived here to find a huge crowd. >> i stand here before you not as a prophet, but as a humble servant of you, the people. >> that was the moment back in 1990, when nelson mandela left robben island a free man. just four days later, he sat down with ted koppel to reflect on the 27 years behind bars and the road ahead. he wanted to start somewhere else, with buster douglas' fight with mike tyson. >> i think the last top nick the world that people expect to hear nelson mandela talking about, boking. >> yes. >> you were surprised by the fight the other night with tyson? >> yes, i was very much surprised. i took it for granted he would win. >> so did he. >> yes. >> did you ever think of turning pro? turning professional? >> no, i never did. >> but you were a good boxer? >> i do not know. that is for others to say. >> when you were in prison, did you keep up? did you keep up boxing at all? >> uh, no. exercises. kipping -- skipping

there's a similar article by alan brinkley, the columbia professor, about conservativism in the '60s. he pointed out that conservativism includes many ideas that often -- including many that contradict each other. so, you know, i hi for the purposes of this book -- i think for the purposes of this book, i grew up in the 1980s, and conservativism was tax cutting, and it was strong military and a robust foreign policy, peace through strength. and a kind of respect for tradition on social issues influenced by religion. free trade. so -- and undergirded by the idea that people have god given rights that come from -- or natural rights that are not created by the state or the government, but that we all have. and so whether those are classical liberal ideas or conservative ideas, i think those were kennedy's ideas, and, you know, they're ideas that i think are probably shared by a lot of americans who may call themselves centrists or don't put themselves into categories of liberal or conservative. a conservative word is, if i can confess, it's a bit of an attention-grabbing title. but if i

the uproar was so immediate and visceral that david brinkley later apologized on behalf of nbc and the network aired the final minute of the game later, after everyone knew what happened. now, was switching to "heidi" a terrible thing in the grand scheme of things, no? even in the grand scheme of professional football? no. but if you are looking for proof that 1968 is imprinted somewhere on your dna, no matter how old you are, there it is. i mean, even if you just take that one example, 1968 is the year they figured out that football is in charge of america, or at least in charge of america's television. you could lose hope in ordinary life in 1968. you could lose hope that the channel would not just change itself of its own accord. you could lose hope that the country would follow its own values and know which values it valued in 1968. but then, at the very tail end of 1968, something else happened. the united states sent people to the moon. now, this was not sending them to walk on the moon. that didn't happen until a year later. but in 1968, nasa sent the very first astronauts into

. >> christie brinkley. >> and arianna and so children, that was the first aids campaign, 1985. talked about the fact that nobody is talking about hiv aids. >> rose: 28 years ago, 1985,. >> so safe sex, we know saids can only be cured through clean needle safe sex. both of which by the way ironically are illegal at the time to distribute, to advertise condoms and distribute clean needles. so we did a campaign to try to further the cause. it's a woman's right to choose, after all she is the one carrying it. >> rose: did advertising people conceptually this or do you do it. >> i do t we. >> rose: i we. >> well, i have an organization, we all work on it together. but these are all, you know messages that i feel connected and resonate with customer and things i believe. in and i think women have to choose do they want big bags or small bags, they have to make that decision every day. >> rose: right. >> this? >> so we may not heal the world we hope to be an accessory, that is a bad pun. but you know, it's kind of, you know, we don't take what we do all that seriously. and to the degr

douglas brinkley and nancy reagan agreed to do all this. you basically go through it and it's got weather, like a farmer's almanac. everything about the weather. reagan's god at all they are. all the social life. in other words, that's what men do. you basically go out with the west has been sent her friends, ray? you don't pick your friends. you your wife takes her friends and their husbands. he's hanging out with people that bloomberg's and justin doherty's are cool guys i'm sure. and hangs out with the rich crowd. they were nancy's husband's friend. he's a weird guy. check that one out in google. so he also did this family. he's a family is an important. see ron showing up in patti showing up in marine when they were showing up. they bring their husband or spouse. who is bringing who is all in there. also with this political news. what happened at the meanings? donnie brooks, all the description. he can really like you, but knock your head off. the strange relationship, the conflict did nature of it. it's all in there. the other thing wi

piano man billy joel and supermodel christie brinkley.ia ray admits she struggled growing up in the shadow of their celebrity. as she grew older she faced scrutiny following an overdose in 2009 and for making the decision to have plastic surgery, but the 27-year-old has made it a priority to move past her sum bling blocks often using her story to empower young women, and she makes music, even delivering a version of her dad's classic hit, "just the way you are. " . >> alexia ray joel, good morning. nice to see you. >> good morning. nice to see you. >> i know both your parents a little bit. i watched you grow up from a distance. are you enjoying making me feel old this morning? >> no, you look like a spring chicken. >> how are you doing? >> i'm doing great. >> you seem to be in a really wonderful place right now. >> thank you. yes. it took me a minute. being the daughter of such iconic figures, it took some growing into and just to be in the spotlight, you're exposed to the spotlight at such a young age, and that, of course, can be challen

with billy joel for a dad and chris ta brinkley for a mom, alexa rae joel couldn't miss. >> she's here throat as effectively and deliciously as pine brothers. in fact, they're more than just a throat drop. they're an experience. please give pine brothers softish throat drops a try and find out why i'm such a fan of this wonderful product. thanks. female announcer: since 1870. series on today brought to you by toyota. >>> coming up tomorrow trisha yearwood cooks a christmas meal with us. >> plus how one young woman found her birth mom. >> we leave you with a special performance from the daughter of piano mom billy joel and sizzling super model christie brinkley. >> here's alexa rae joel singing santa baby. have a great christmas, everyone. god bless, every one. ♪ la la la la la la ♪ santa baby, just slip a sable under the tree for me ♪ ♪ been an awful good girl, santa baby, so hurry down the criminalny tonight ♪ ♪ santa cutie, a '54 convertible too, light blue ♪ ♪ i'll wait up for you, dear santa baby, so hurry down the chimney tonight ♪ ♪ think of all the fun i've missed ♪ ♪ think of a