on brinn's point on short coverings, i would say those who have been most successful making the money in the last 12 months have been the platforms. they have big balance sheets so they might run $80 billion but $40 billion gross. so it's tricky because it's not are they done covering, it's are they done borrowing money from the big three or four. they could gross up going bigger forward. it can last painfully long that's the only pushback i give on brinn's point there >> just want to make everybody aware of what we're watching on the screen 662 the decline on the dow we could have the worst day of the year on the three averages john, wrapping up our conversation, you don't think that much of this year's rally was due to, a, just positioning, and, b, what mike wilson suggests, this false notion that a pivot was coming and that led to a big woosh higher and a lot of the most beaten-up names that were just ripe for a huge bounce, and you throw on a pivot on top of that, and that's why you've got some stocks up 60% to start the year >> a lot packed in there there were some bonus rallies.