so it has to start with individuals but we have to work together because individuals alone are not brinton the difference whether the individual is an everyday working plumber or president of the united states >> host: are all corporations that? >> guest: the system of capitalism is based on making profits of the labor of work. that is if not checked it's bad for people. i'm not going to see people and corporations are mad. they are just another part of the puzzle. i'm not want to see the businesses themselves are bad. they're just another part of the puzzle with the structure itself is problematic. it's like his white sugar that? no, but it's bad for you. it's not evil it's just white sugar but it's not good for you you better not just be eating white sugar or you won't live very long. >> host: beginning with a call from vermont, and he wore on with walter mosley. >> caller: i heard you lived there as well and i wondered if you have any stories. >> guest: i am sorry i didn't hear that one. >> caller: if you studied writing and if you have any stories that you can share with us. >> guest:

. >> from brinton and other officials have raised very serious questions about who and what and whenhey knew it about bin laden and his location. this has been more -- the talk coming from the hull from people who just eight months ago or less were all on board with kerry-lugar bill orman assistance to pakistan and seeing a completely different song right now. your policy there of the existing policy is in serious jeopardy at least from the hill where there's going to be a significant challenge. did the ambassador grossman make it clear to the pakistanis they have to answer these questions. did he explain the consequences are not? >> i'm not going to talk that the specific conversations john brenau was very clear yesterday in saying that we are working with the government of pakistan to determine what if any support systems may have existed in place for bin laden. >> the come to the conversation between the support systems? >> i'm not going to get into the details of the conversations. we public the mccaul which we are going to raise those issues and we have indeed raised those issue