so it has to start with individuals but we have to work together because individuals alone are not brinton the difference whether the individual is an everyday working plumber or president of the united states >> host: are all corporations that? >> guest: the system of capitalism is based on making profits of the labor of work. that is if not checked it's bad for people. i'm not going to see people and corporations are mad. they are just another part of the puzzle. i'm not want to see the businesses themselves are bad. they're just another part of the puzzle with the structure itself is problematic. it's like his white sugar that? no, but it's bad for you. it's not evil it's just white sugar but it's not good for you you better not just be eating white sugar or you won't live very long. >> host: beginning with a call from vermont, and he wore on with walter mosley. >> caller: i heard you lived there as well and i wondered if you have any stories. >> guest: i am sorry i didn't hear that one. >> caller: if you studied writing and if you have any stories that you can share with us. >> guest:

in the run-up to the civil war about both efforts of northerners and efforts by some owners tom brinton of missouri, senator bentsen was the great uncle thomas benton the great painter. but senator hart painted a very different picture, and he fought stephen douglas kansas nebraska act was part of a conspiracy of. i want to read to you what he said before the senate when they were debating the act. i must now work for the real object of a particular purpose which it was manufactured and the grand movement of which it is the base. jacinta and we will talk about in a moment it must be the time of this bill not to be conceived about the time of this bill 50 million for as much mexican territory on the southern borders would make five or six states, secondly, the mission of the ambassador to madrid, $250 million for cuba. we will talk about cuba in a minute. this nebraska bill is only an entering wedge to the future enterprises, the same manufacturer for a particular purpose, a steppingstone for a grant movement which is to develop itself in this country of ours. so what the senator was say