relationship between our intelligence community and what is called the five i's, which is britain, new zealand, canada, australia. people really operate together and view themselves as a collective mission, it can be about terrorism, it can be about a whole variety of issues. and there's enormous cooperation. the idea that the attorney general would be showing up in a five i's country to say what kind of dirt do you have on my own intelligence community is the kind of thing, having been at the fbi, is unthinkable and it's of such damage to the relationship, that there's such distrust of the intelligence community. and one thing that's just so wonderful for the american public to see in the last two weeks, and again, leaving aside the substance of the impeachment, is your seeing career people, and it's really useful, this is supposed to be the deep state, hallelujah. these are wonderful, wonderful public servants. >> let me bring in -- i'm sorry. >> i was just going to say to claire's point, when the president announced that investigation, he gave attorney general barr access to the deepest secrets, ordering the