president in suggesting we need reform but my goodness when you look at what goes on in canada, britain or sweden, all they do there is make people suffer by making them wait for care. >> mike: i want to be very clear. i don't impugn the president's motive or even that of most numbers of congress because i really think they genuinely want to see reform of the doctor system and all of us agree there is need reform. i think the question is, is this the direction we need to go. what we're learning from new doctor, as well as from linda gilbert, is if we go to a canadian system, it may not be a reform, it may be a d. form of the system. then i want to ask about your son quickly. you will bring into the united states, is not what will happen to give. >> i'm looking into the possibility. that's my plan to make if he stays in canada how long will it take before you might get the kind of help he needs keep you. >> i would say 2-3 years. i can't even get the name of the surgeon that will see him. >> mike: so you have to bear the cost of this? >> s. >> mike: in the other canadians account united states wou

i don't want to go to canada, i don't want to go to great britain or france or sweden or russia, no, i'd like to be sick right here in this country. it strikes me that a health care system that most people, even around the world, recognize as probably the most sophisticated and the best quality health care system in the world, we're saying that it's full of muck and the system has to be completely changed around. so it's ok if you want to believe these promises that what's going to happen when the government takes over the health care system is that it's going to cost less money. the trouble is, the congressional budget office doesn't say that. the estimates of the costs don't say that. and the states that have tried using the same approach that's being proposed here nationally don't say that either. those states are almost bankrupt for trying to do this kind of system. yet we're going to try to copy those bad examples. we are just -- actually, a few weeks, a couple or three weeks away from dealing with the other big problem the administration has iidentified, the fact that the clima