anti british. these were not one and the same thing, american officials said perfect legitimately anti british in the middle east. the british had been there as a hegemonic power since the first world war and in egypt, substantially before that. but it didn't necessarily imply you were pro axis. this confrontation which led to the overthrow of prime minister rashid valley in 1941 occurred several months, months before pearl harbor. america was not in the war yet so americans were in a difficult position, very poor leverage to actually press the british about this and we were always torn. americans felt we want to press our political objectives but we shouldn't do anything that jeopardize is the war effort so when the british heard this formula they immediately set basically anything you do will jeopardize the war effort so don't do anything. this sort of hand, the city way. there was a great deal of frustration in washington that we were not able to do anything about iraq, the regent of iraq, the k

the british would still lost. it would have been a different kind -- the course would've been longer. there is a possibility, i would say, a 20% possibility that the destruction of the continental army would have destroyed the will of the rebellion because that middle group. that is what i can't know. i don't think it would have been. if i was a betting man i would put my odds on american victory in the end. one of the things that happen as a result of this experience was that washington began to understand a strategic that became absolutely central to his success. this is not the way to fight the war. the american army was never going to be competitive with the british army in a man for man situation. let's fight a war of posts. that's what they call it. it's not quite a guerrilla war because of the conventional army. it is a war in which you don't fight them as his superior numbers or superior terrain. you adopt a defensive strategy. and this will work for you for a reason that is really important. we don't have

in principle would that be in the bath interest of the british society of the british people or the british in syria would be would be round table talks under peaceful negotiation and i'm afraid what is largely disincentive vising right now is that the assad regime enjoys because of one sided arms and a military advantage on the ground which takes away any incentive from them from talking to the opposition and trying to find a way of stopping development what do you exactly mean by the arming the conflict because obviously you know that there are many other parties turned k. the gulf states some of them are very strong allies of both the united kingdom and the united states who are supplying weapons to the rebel side i hope you don't expect us to. just lay down arms and surrender that country to. a bunch of militia guys of whom your own intelligence services have great concerns . i think that the. both sides in syria are carrying out what under any normal definition would be atrocities unspeakable acts and therefore i think it is irresponsible to say these guys are slightly better than thos

the source of the british empire, the british government is the king in parliament. the american solution is unacceptable because it creates multiple versions of sovereignty, each colony has its own sovereign government. even though nay claim to work under the canopy of the british king. we can't have that. since aristotle, everybody knows you have a final source of sovereignty. by the way, the whole american constitution is based on with dispensing that idea and having multiple sources of sovereignty. james madison is the major architect. a second reason is an early 18th century version of what we call the domino theory. if we grant the americans this degree of latitude politically, what happens in ireland? what happens in scotland? what happens in india? we can't send that signal. it's a sign of weakness. it's a sign we're not really an empire. again, if they had acted on this, they would have discovered the british commonwealth a hundred years early. they are not ready to act on it. there's a third reason they are not ready to act. there's no reason to make a dipl

society the british politicians the british political class could have gone through the iraqi invasion which you've been critical just a couple of minutes ago and yet fully embrace yet another military adventure in dot part of the world with very unclear outcome i don't think anyone is proposing a direct military intervention in syria i'm certainly opposed to it as far as arms sales go i mean this presumably should apply to both sides if it would apply equally to russian sales to the regime and anyone else's say as you very well aware of the russian arms sales are carried out in accordance with existing contracts they are legal under international law whereas what your country is proposing is strictly legal. is a kind of intervention i mean if there were genuine arms embargo on both sides if we were trying to demilitarize both sides and get them around the table and stop the fighting and this is the one disaster has been there and i do find it very old that you are saying well we have a national interest we should be allowed to so but at the same time it is the most scandalous interven

british m. p.es debated all day, british prime minister faced a mutinous parliament. >> i am saying this is a judge mint. we all have to reach a judgement, on what happened and who was responsible. >> i didn't think that should be made on an artificial timetable. i am determined we learn the lesson of the past, and we can't have the house of commons being offered to write a blank check. >> late tonight, when it came to a vote, the government lost. >> the jays to the right. 220. the no to the left, 332. >> it is clear to me that the british parliament reflecting the views of the british people does not want to see british military action. i get that and the government will act ard cooingly. not only does president obama face a withering coalition, with no prospect for a strike, it is still not clear how the administration sees the days after a strike playing out. all right, you have done this. you hit at the asaad rah jet stream. what happen happens to the syril war? are you going to back the reb

government has confirmed that the british armed forces are indeed drawing up contingency plans for a serious strike the british parliament also has been recalled for a session on thursday david cameron the prime minister had come back early from a holiday and the downing street said that cameron will not be bound by evidence from the u.n. weapons inspectors now we know that as far as the british parliament is concerned there are already have been in the past a lot of reluctance it has to do from some members of parliament over any military intervention in syria sort of be interesting to see what kind of debate or discussion that will have a thursday and on wednesday cameron will share a national security council meeting which will include senior military chiefs and cabinet members to discuss to finalize the options on any missile strike in syria now all of this while the guardian newspaper had reported earlier that there has been increased activity surrounding the. british government in cyprus this is just about one hundred miles one hundred sixty kilometers from syria the guardian r

see british military action. i get that and the government will act accordingly. >> in the u.s., the british vote is not really a game changer. >> first of all, i have not made a decision. i have gotten options from our military. >> the united nations chief ban ki-moon called on all parties to choose the paloma see over war. it seems certain heads of state want to push ahead even without a human mandate. >> if the security council is prevented from acting, a coalition will form. it needs to be as wide as possible. >> despite signs other western leaders may be reconsidering a strike germany rules out any such action on friday. military options are still open. the u.s. has redeployed a fifth destroyer in the mediterranean. >> i spoke to our international affairs desk earlier and i asked where exactly france now stands in all of this. >> france is still in the game. he said all actions are on the table, but he called for firm action against the government of bashar al-assad in response to the chemical weapon attack.

parliament, reflecting the views of the british people, does not want to see british military action. i get that. >> hagel said the u.s. would continue to contusult with britn and other i'll lallies. officials told members of congress they had intercepted communications proving assad's regime carried out the chemical weapons attack. u.s. is expected to wait for a final report from the u.n. inspectors, due to leave syria on saturday, before deciding on the next course of action. hadly gamble joins us on set. it is interesting, where does the british parliament vote really leave the u.s., do you think, and president obama? >> really it leaves the u.s. in a tight spot. president obama has to make this a clear decision about foreign policy. this is no longer just about chemical weapons being used in syria. this is now about basically iran and the broader region. we have iran influencing everything happening in syria at this point, the fallout there being in lebanon, in turkey. we also have the threat of a nuclear weapons program in iran. if president obama were to look weak on iran, what

the views of the british people does not want to see british military action. i get that and the government will act accordingly. >> they appeared to all but rule out british involvement. barack obama hopes members of congress will be more receptive to his plans. they are consulting with lawmakers on whether to attack syria and hope to prove to forces to use chemical weapons. a spokesperson said secretary of state john kerry and other senior officials are explaining the results of the government's analysis. >> the president contemplates what response is appropriate to the situation we have seen, they believe it's important to consult with congress. >> he said analysts are on track to produce their report before the end of the week. he said any action would be discreet and limited and in no way comparable to the iraq war. syrian opposition leaders say western forces need to act quick low to prevent any more chemical attacks by forces loyal to the syrian president. the more time it takes to make a decision, the more civilian lives will be lost. number two is thos

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barnaby phillips and outside the british parliament. you can give us a taste of the robust parliamentary debate to come. >> reporter: i hope so. with me is a member of the parliament for the opposition labor party, and she's one of the most outspoken voices against british military intervention in syria. diane, the british government seems to backtrack quite a way from where we were saturday morning, and there's a second vote and waiting for the u.n. inspectors in syria to do their work. you must be quite pleased about that. >> i'm relieved we backed off where we were. it seemed there was a all-party consensus to bomb syria by the weekend, but i think politicians have listened to the public and the british public is 2:1 against bombing syria. the british public have seen this movie, and they know how it ends. >> reporter: william hague says it's a different movie, to use your language. he says in syria it's clear dreadful weapons of mass destruction exist and have been used. nobody disputes that. the argument might be who used them. ver

but british media is reporting the information may relate to a plot involving british military.es that sound plausible to you? >> yes. it sounds plausible. there's a long history of collusion between the military and sis, special secret intelligence service. but in terms of the assassination of princess diana, it's just not feasible that they would have carried out such an act. you mentioned "operation paget." that was one of the most intensive investigations ever carried out in this country. no matter how you looked at it, no matter what angle you looked at the conspiracy theories from you come up against a brick wall. it's not possible the intelligence services or bright wing acting at the behest of the duke of edinburgh or nonsense we got, it's just not possible and it's been proved twice now by the french and british. >> what do you suppose this scoping information is? >> i understand this dossier was given to scotland yard from the sib, special investigations branch of the military police. the information was passed on to them from the in-laws of the serving soldier. everyb

the of how the euro fund the british government as a force is the newspaper of the sander of the snowden surveillance leaks to destroy its trove of data we report on how far authorities are going to muzzle the media. syrian kurds surge across the iraqi border fleeing attacks by al qaida linked rebels who see the war in syria becoming more than just about regime change. and with political and sectarian chaos rocking egyptian economy seems to have been forgotten with the latest wave of violence threatening to cut off one of the country's main sources of income tourism. three pm in moscow you're watching r t a marina joshie welcome to the program the british government it seems has had enough of the media's coverage of surveillance leaks and is taking action a u.k. news paper at the forefront of spying revelations has been coerced into destroying computers contain data and baer is saying to the authorities the justification that chinese spies might somehow find their way into the basement of the guardian's london offices are just as our cilia has more. he had been contacted he said about tw

british politicians gather to debate intervening.here are signs of preparations, british jets have arrived in cypress. >> one of the most wanted men in india was arrested after five years on the run. >> i'm in new orleans. it's a city struggling to recover from hurricane katrina, now a new generation of entrepreneurs is helping it stage a comeback. ♪ theme >> in just half an hour, british prime minister david cameron will lead a debate in particlement on military action in syria in a responsibility to a chemical attack. whatever vote parliament takes, they won't be making a binding decision for a few days yet. they want to hear what the u.n. weapons inspectors inside syria say and they won't be finished with their work until saturday. simon mcgregor wood is in london. this is a vote, simon, which is a difference motion than cameron had hoped to approve. what do we expect to see in parliament? >> he's been knocked back from the original motion specifically tailored toward this fast track, if you like, forwarded military action. he's h

british forces to join a strike. a majority of lawmakers including members of cameron's own party rejected that motion. >> it is clear to me that the british parliament reflecting the views of the british people does not want to see british military action. i get that and the government will act accordingly. >> some u.s. allies in the war on terror are cautious. officials in poland, italy and canada say their militaries will not take part in any action without the endorsement of a u.n. security council resolution. leaders in turkey say they want the americans to attack syrian forces on such a scale that they bring down the assad regime. >>> an anti-government activist in syria says troops loyal to president assad are moving tanks and scud missiles out of their base. the activist told nhk that troops have spent two days trucking the equipment out of a facility 80 kilometers north of damascus and the activist says troops used the facility in the chemical attack last week. families of soldiers have reportedly evacuated

today british people are very reluctant for british troops to get involved in any form in the middle east. >> in parliament, calls for a debate on the syrian crisis, consensus was in a state of collapse. u.k. prime minister david cameron saying the evidence that chemical weapons were used was compelling. >> eyewitness accounts of chemical-filled rockets being used against opposition-control areas. we have thousands of social media reports and 95 different videos, horrific videos, documenting the evidence. >> at the past of the opposition, this emergency recall of the british parliament had been reduced to debating the principal of military action. >> evidence should proceed decision, not decision preceding evidence. >> the u.k. government has published a summary of advice from its own lawyers claiming military action would be legal if there was compelling evidence of the use of chemical weapons. but according to the british prime minister, there will be no strike until action at the u.n.. though that will not oppose silent -- silence opposing views on the street. >> a division that r

british . unfortunately actually lost this is a bit of a difficulty because i actually lost my hearing for this in the studio so i do believe i may be talking to a guest in just a moment but i won't be able to talk to the guest because we have an earpiece and clearly the battery has just tie domi so that's a bit unfortunate so probably what we'll do is have a quick break and then all the sort out the sound and then hopefully we can do that shortly. i. the british intelligence analysts glenmore trinite hall of the joins me live for more on this not just been trying to explain actually to our production team that i won't be able to actually hear more because i have no sound in my ear which is a bit difficult at the moment so. you probably can him a lot to talk to in just a moment but i call unfortunate because a rather rare occurrence as it happened where i can actually hear anything so sorry about that so as i say we need a quick break and was sold out the problem with this is what. do we speak

>> there was a heads up that was provided by the british government.mething that we had an indication was likely to occur. but it's not something that we requested. and it's something that was done specifically by the british law enforcement officials there. >> so officially, a heads up for britain but not a request from america. i asked glenn greenwald whether he buys that. here's what he told me. >> i don't have evidence that the u.s. government ordered it, but they did nothing to discourage it or protect the right of free press guaranteed in the constitution, or did anything else to protect the rights that we have as human beings as i have as an american and journalist. so whether the idea originated with the uk or u.s., clearly the u.s. was perfectly happy to see that. >> david, when you got back on the plane to brazil, what was that feeling? >> i was relieved. i was in my country. i knew i was going to be protected, because i was in my country. i know that people here would be carried about this situation and i would see my husband and i knew he w

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jeff, do you believe the british government was justified in detaining him for nine hours? >> i sure do. let's be clear about what mr. miranda's role was here. i don't want to be unkind, but he was a mule. he was given something, he didn't know what it was, from one person to pass to another at the other end of an airport. our prisons are full of drug mules. glenn's view is, as long as one of the two people on either end of that transaction was a journalist, he can take anything he wants. he could take the nuclear launch codes. he could take the names of our undercover agents. >> this was paid for by "the guardian." wasn't he acting in a journalistic capacity? >> no. he's on a plane with stuff highly classified. anything he wants, it turns out it wasn't the names of our undercover agents. it was the extremely classified presumedly nsa material. that is not the law. >> he's being detained under a british uk terrorism act, only supposed to be used to detect and find people who are connected to terrorists. there's no indication that david miranda, they knew who he was. they kn

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like the british, they've been recalled from their summer vacation.hey will be voting on the possibility of some participation in a military action in syria sometime next week. richelle. >> ok, keep us posted live from london, thank you. >> the syrian government is making preparations in anticipation of a possible military strike. president assad said the country will defend itself against aggression. reporters are staying away from buildings that could be targeted in a strike. the refugees had a crisis before the talk of air strikes, now even more are pouring out of the country. david jackson is live in beirut. >> we were at the border point where they exit out of syria and come into lebanon here. we saw quite a few people doing this. it's i guess you would call a steady stream of traffic that does come out. it has not been the overflowing amount that was expected here in lebanon. they are not getting a gigantic in flux of syrians by any means. you get 10,000 people a day crossing that border out of syria, 8,000 people from lebanon going back into sy

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while changing planes in london, british athouthorities detained miranda and interrogated him. as you'll hear on 360, miranda claims they didn't ask him about terrorism but threatened him with jail time and confiscated his laptop and memory sticks. just a short time ago for the first time since the incident, i spoke with david miranda and glenn greenwald. david, there has been a lot of misreporting on this. you were on a plane and there was an announcement everyone had to show passports and then what happened? >> i walk out, and there was two officers just waiting by the door of the plane, and they were just like checking people. they pick up my passport and they looked at my name and face and just ask me, sir, can you acompany me? i went with them. we went to this room, and there was four chairs in there and a table, and they start asking me questions. the moment that i got there, they told me that i was under this law, because i asked why i was being held and they said it was the law in 2000 and i ask what was my rights? and then whatever i have to do. they say that i have to

with british saying no to the u.s. some of speculating on how this will effect the relationship between the two countries. >> reporter: the day after a vote in the british parliament that will be talked about for many years and leave the prime minister and the authority has been badly damaged. >> the parliament i think made a very clear view which it doesn't want british involvement in military action so we will proceed on that basis. >> reporter: and how is the relationship with america? this american commentator feels the british parliament feels haunted in iraq and posts a nerve on syria. >> there's a risk on these things but that's the courage on what i would consider the western democracy is you face these uncertainties. i think that's what it is last night listening to these people kind of caught in this iraq time warp. >> reporter: the special relationship was in the second worldle war. there have been ups and downs. some presidents and prime ministers got along better than others but it has endured through the

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british military action.t and the government will act accordingly. >> i'm grateful to the prime minister for that response. point of order, mr. robert flello. >> i'd like to address a separate matter this afternoon. while the eyes of the world have been focused on the appalling atrocities in syria -- >> there you have it. a huge setback for the prime minister of britain, david cameron loses on a mild resolution that would have required another vote. 285 against the resolution, 272 in favor. you and i are pretty surprised that cameron loses this vote. give us perspective on what kind of political set back this is. >> quite staggering. could you see it in the face of the opposition leader. they're almost trying to absorb what he seems to have pulled off in parliament through the opposition he put up to the government's motion. remarkable, too, to hear david cameron standing up there very clearly saying i get it, we will not use military force at this point. there's a real elephant in the room here and in one wo

any strategy seems to be in disarray from the british-u.s.ide. >> it's worth noting that britain was leading calls for intervention in syria for a while up to this point. i spoke to american colleagues who said it was william hague who harass really driving the agenda in washington. and britain has led oh far on this issue has now had to set back. it will be very difficult for president obama who was leading from behind. how can they lead from behind if no one was in front of them. until now, britain played that roll. >> just quickly, jeremy, do you think the mps based their opinion from the streets that any intervention would have been very unpopular. >> if you look at the polling, indeed. knew as we're looking at a much more restrained intervention in syria the level was a third at most, and a lot of them consulted with their con sit wents and heard a pretty clear answer, we don't want to intervene again. >> reporter: plenty of repercussions to be hammered out in westminster, but back to you, stephen, in doha. >> thank you very much. the ja

let's the take a look at more information with british law makers saying no. some are speculating how this will effect the relaceship with the two tkroeupbs countries. >> reporter: it will be talked about for many years. the prime minister said the authority has been badly damaged. >> parliament made a very view which it doesn't want british involvement in military action so we will proceed on that bay basis. >> reporter: has it also hurt britain's relationship with america. they feel the british parliament still haunted by iraq lost its nerve on syria. >> that's the courage of what i would consider the western democracy is to phase these uncertainties. i think that's what is disparity last night listening to these people get caught in this iraqi time warp. >> reporter: the second relationship was in the second whole war. there have been ups an downs. some presidents and prime ministers have got along better than others. that's what the junior partners probably cared about more than the americans. >> the british parliament have hue milhumiliated david cameron.

and then right up to the turks, british, and now the israelis. so in every weight is up fascinating place. it is a fascinating give way, if you like, a touch see the history of the world. >> host: is jerusalem strategically located? how did it become so vital? >> guest: absolutely not. it is not strategically valuable at all. became strategically valuable when it became a greece city in the great fortress, but actually armies are invading up and down egypt, egypt invading into syria, the march up the coast like napoleon did. another what did not mention. and they don't go anywhere near jerusalem. jerusalem is all about holiness. it is value that comes completely from being a temple city. and its prestige as the capitol and as an name in history really comes from that reason, from its sanctity. it is all about religion. >> host: when did it begin? >> guest: well, it began in the second millennium before christ at least. and it started as a small mountain top fortress just with water, a spring, and a mountaintop. of course in those days high places

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david cameron said it is clear that the british parliament does not want to see british military action, and i get that. from the latest we go to rob watson, who was watching the debate in parliament. this is a real defeat for david will mean that britain will not be working with america to take military action against syria. >> i was stunned and i think everyone in the house of commons was stunned, and everyone beyond that. this is an extraordinary turnaround. called back from summer holiday early by the prime minister hoping to get their approval for imminent military action against syria in one form or another. 72 hours later, he seems to have admitted defeat. and he will meet political or public support for military action in syria. this is quite a turnaround and a defeat for david cameron. >> why was he defeated? iraq. legacy of a rack -- too many politicians on his own side and opposition parties just felt there were too many dangers with this and could not quite believe the guarantee of the government that this will be a limited action, they are worried about the mission creep an

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to see british military action. i get that and the government will act accordingly. >> we've been here in 2003. basically misled. we told there were weapons of mass destruction in iraq and there weren't. it is a complete humiliation for the obama administration. here's obama trying to gather an ally or two for a pinprick and gets nothing. >> the president laid down america's credibility by issuing a red line. >> the president of the united states said for a year that bashar assad thoos go. now we're in a position to go, now they have no strategy, no idea what they're doing.

but would you entertain the idea that had the british not done their part, the british curb on the day >> people sometimes ask me what i think the turning point of the civil war was and i always answer that mathematics. that is the safest because it is true, there're any number of factors, even in 1864, which might have pointed to a different result. palouse george mcclellan was elected rather than lincoln. at that point, the confederacy is bleeding from every pore, but it's still there. but the election would've led almost at once for the opening of some kind of negotiations. once the negotiations began, no one was going to start shooting again. not after what people have gone through for the previous three years. even as late as that point, the confederacy might still have old chestnuts from the fire and achieve some kind of independence. but this is to speak of extraordinary situations and details that could derail the locomotive. what gettysburg established is that the rails and the locomotive's themselves are pointing towards the station at appomattox. borrowing some extraordinary

parliament reflecting the views of the british people does not want to see british military action. get that, and the government will academy accordingly. >> reporter: this defeat for david cameron is a significant personal political humiliation. he has miscalculated not only the mood amongst applications here at westminster but of the british public in damage. he's damaged, and it will take a long time for him to recover. in damascus president assad said his country will defend itself against any aggression. u.n. weapons inspectors will stay until saturday looking for any chemical weapons use. many are shocked and panned in an explosion in the city. it scenes like this are a regular occurrence in syria. so now the focus is on the united states and if president obama will act without his closest ally and friend. hhe said that countries who violate international norms by use of chemical weapons should be held accountable. >> russia and china are opposed to any military strikes against syria, especially without what they call concrete proof. the assad recream used chemical weapons in

david cameron said it is clear that the british parliament does not want to see british military action, and i get that. from the latest we go to rob watson, who was watching the debate in parliament. this is a real defeat for david will mean that britain will not be working with america to take military action against syria. >> i was stunned and i think everyone in the house of commons was stunned, and everyone beyond that. this is an extraordinary turnaround. called back from summer holiday early by the prime minister hoping to get their approval for imminent military action against syria in one form or another. 72 hours later, he seems to have admitted defeat. and he will meet political or public support for military action in syria. this is quite a turnaround and a defeat for david cameron. >> why was he defeated? iraq. legacy of a rack -- too many politicians on his own side and opposition parties just felt there were too many dangers with this and could not quite believe the guarantee of the government that this will be a limited action, they are worried about the mission creep an

my understanding is that their lawyers are retriever a british organization the british organization has just said finally they got a one time of this is a great achievement. they're being held in no jury as far as we can tell. in officials have to decide their future one of the interesting things is one of the little while he was one note you know he's basically french and it's not clear what will happen to these two men for a number of the prisoners transferring them isn't a viable option so you know what is the government s'posed to do with the. well it seems to me that the united states which maintains the right to humanitarian intervention around the world has got to start observing human and legal rights and the united states has i think a couple of options one option is if they have no evidence on people they're going to have to release them the other option is to provide trials and legal process you know one talos a military base whenever congress decides present barack obama is commander in chief there are states armed forces barack obama has the power to a lot early act he