but also brittany cooper writes about ida b.ells and mary church terrell and the juxtaposition of those individuals. that goes to the fact that african-americans were never monolithic. and we have a. philip randolph, the means were the same. better lives for african-americans. just like ida b. wells and mary church terrell. ida b. wells was a fire breather and would punch you in the nose. >> literally. >> and mary was a dignified agitator. she says that in her book. and she just kind of believed and, you know, doing things in a dignified manner. but the end state was the same. and that's throughout. that's why we chose people for who they are and not only african-americans, i mean, we talk about, you know, we always say african-americans and their white supporters. you'll see stories about white americans in this exhibition just like you see throughout the museum that are friends of the forward progress of african-americans. >> so we're going to open it up if folks want to start moving to the micro phones. like i said, we just s

we have brittany cooper, anna marie cox is back with us, and we have three of our msnbc contributors.ood to have all of you with us tonight. let me come back to you, what do you make of the former vice president's remarks. >> well, look, this was a message that lands very differently with black americans than white americans, so my opinion matters very little in that context. i will tell you i thought the apology was right, or the cleanup was right, he admitted that he shouldn't make assumptions that put political persuasions based on race. it seemed like an accurate statement. i understand it was a bit of a misstep, what we know of donald trump, this is a man who had to settle a racial discrimination suit in the '70s, because he refused to rent to black people. he led on birtherism, he suggested that he ran that his political opportunity with black people was based on the platform, what do you have to lose. to hear biden ar stick u late that is there any question which party and which candidate in this case, best represents the priorities of people of color. it did make sense. but it

lisa writes about that, brittany cooper writes about ida b. wells and mary church truro. african-americans have never been monolithic. like dubois, and a. phillip randolph, their means were the same. better lives for african-american, just like ida b. wells and mary truro, but they had different ways of doing it. ida was a fire breather, she would punch you in the nose. >> literally. >> and mary was a dignified agitator. she says that in her book. and she just kind of believed in doing things in a dignified manner. that's throughout the. we chose people for who they are and not only african-americans, we talk about -- you know, we always say african-americans and their white supporters. so you will see stories about white americans in this exhibition, just like you see throughout the museum who were friends and for the progress of african-americans. >> absolutely. so we're going to open et al. up. if folks want to start moving toward the microphones. we just scratched the surface. everybody is in here from josephine baker, louie arm strong. it's a remarkable moment. as fo

brittany cooper a professor at rutgers university and the author of eloquent rage, a black feminist discovers her super power. tamika, i want to start with you and get your response to what we heard earlier today from the attorney general. we also heard from the governor about the possibility that there are outside forces infiltrating these protests. >> well, certainly. first, i just want to say my organization is until freedom, and i'm here representing many people who work within a network across the country that foigs for social justice every day. so, yes, we know not just because of what's happening in minnesota and across the country today and over the last few days, but the history of protest movements and movements in general has been what we always know their if filtrate is. we think about the black panther moment and other moments in history where if filtrators came in and their job is to create division and really destroy movements from inside out and to create confusion. i know i've been on the ground in minneapolis for the last few days with my team, and we have seen it. number on

then we picked up another scholar, brittany cooper. powerful writer. and she writes the piece on charles and ida b wells. that is the construct. when you read the book, we also have a beautiful timeline. bill pretzer and one of our research assistants, alicia norwood, you pour that out and it goes from 1863 to 1963 and it weaves in the social, cultural and economic and military service, all in the timeline. we have more than 140 captions of some of the artifacts and images. and our exhibition research assistant fortrea hogan, she wrote half of that and i read the other half. >> i want to write about the -- ask about the exhibit and what is in the book. before we get there, they exhibit opens next month? >> the 13th of december. my project manager is here too. carlos bustamante. >> we're going to talk for awhile and then we will open it up. one of your heroes i think we talk about more is charles young. i think it was according to judge wilkins in his work -- it was a long hard truth, it was a hundred years ago this december that young if the talk becau

brittany cooper chad williams, and curtis young, as i said i have very little time on the stage so i cannot give a shout out to all the people, but if i had time i would. let us do one more very important thing. i see a beautiful young women in uniform there. she reminds me of something. can i ask an active duty and all members of the military who have made the sacrifice for this country to stand? you can stand to colonel. could you please stand? (applause) bless you. thank you. thank you. people say, almost as a throwaway, thank you for your service. but we really mean it. thank you for your service. you stood up, so i can't deny you madam. >> you gentlemen have done an excellent job. what would you say would be the key elements for us to galvanize the military -- (inaudible) of what happened to society. as my grandma would say, the more things change, the struggle we are still fighting. the united states army, the minority of -- (inaudible) we are invested in each other's future, and her future. we are moving out of communities. we are forgetting where we came from. we are engaged

joining me is brittany cooper, associate professor at rutgers university, and author of "eloquent rageg us is seth harris, former acting secretary of labor under president obama. and brittany, i'm going to tell you, the way to make me obsessed with you is to tweet complex words that i have to look up. now i'm obsessed. i was like, oh, can we get her on the show? i'm going to read the tweet that sent me into a swoon literally. and i looked it up and read a -- i went into a deep worm hole. i feel like you tweeted most black people are clear that this utterly -- that this utterly absurd push to reopen the country is all about a gross necropolitical calculation, that it is black people dying disproportionately from covid. let's look at the disproportionate numbers in state after state after state after state. in washington, d.c., you're talking about 45% of the population, but 75% of the deaths. new york, 9 versus 19. louisiana, 33 versus 65. michigan, 14, 46. you can see it on the screen. i had friends last week when we were talking about georgia say to me, oh, that's why kemp is doing it