and brittany cunningham is an msnbc political analyst and black lives matter activist. cal, let me start with you. what we have seen over the course of the last 90 minutes has been so much emotion outside that courtroom. we have heard from ahmaud arbery's mother. we have heard from his family members. we have heard from supporters of the family. >> it's been emotional. you can say jubilation, but also a sense of profound relief, both on part of the family and the supporters here. inside the court when that first verdict was read on the first defendant, we actually heard a woo described by the court reporter. that stopped the proceedings. the judge saying nobody can act like that. he was escorted out of the courtroom, but not before he said, long time coming. that was what happened inside the court. outside the courtroom, you played some of the scenes. supporters who have been here doing weekly marches. that's what you're seeing. this is a weekly march that has take place since 2020. since february 2020. that was before the pandemic. and it speaks to what the family has

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, quote, a really good young guy. >> joining me now is veteran social justice activist brittany packnett cunninghamast on distracted, and an msnbc contributor. brittani, i heard you earlier today, and here's my question. how do you square this week in the american justice system? i understand it as part of the repeated pattern, and i understand it as a warning. so i'm thinking of 1964 the trial of what -- is happening, he is the man of course murdered the incredible civil rights icon adverse in the driveway of his own home, in the deep south, in mississippi. he's also a man who is quote twice acquitted of that murder. in 1964 the mississippi governor at the time ross barnett, what marches into the courtroom and he shakes the hand of -- in front of the jury before they start their deliberations. so this kind of pattern of approval seeking, approval granting from the powers that be, whether they be current governors, or former presidents, is part of the pattern of american history. i am also thinking about trials like the emmett till trial, the non conviction of darrell wilson for the murder of mike

joining me now to discuss them, msnbc contributor brittany cunningham and former mayor of baltimore making her "cross connection" debut. brittany rollins. you all but delivered a sermon when i talked about this verdict. you know there is something about seeing this case or all these trials. you look at kevin strickland. you look at the two men who had their cases vacated in the malcolm x trial and julius jones in oklahoma. i'm curious your thoughts today if you think the rest of america seeing the disparate criminal justice system on display will have an impact on how we operate going forward? >> so tiffany, like i said last week, what remains true about all of the outcomes and cases you just listed is they are all markers along a particular river of justice, but only full transformation of the entire system will actually change the direction of the current and the water. we're still in a place where we're going to see more kyle rittenhouses, we're going to see more travis mcmichaels. we're going to see more of this kind of activity from village laepts, from police officers, from an entire

joining us now, msnbc political analyst, brittany packnick cunningham, and jamiel smith, a senior correspondent for vox. brittany, nbc's gabe gutierrez just interviewed kyle rittenhouse's mother. i want you to take a listen. >> what do you say to people who look at this cas and think, this teenager had no business bringing a military-style weapon to this chaotic scene? >> a lot of people shouldn't have been there, you know? and he brung that gun for protection. and to this day, if he didn't have that gun, my son would have been dead. >> brittany, you take that framework and put it next to rittenhouse on the stand himself, and you then also juxtapose it with what we heard out of the ahmaud arbery case, it all paints a bigger picture as who is seen as a threat, who is worthy of sympathy, and who our justice system actually works for. >> you know, this continues the grand tradition of how we continuously defend guns, romanticize guns, and specifically defend white men when they use them. we've seen how disproportionately stand your ground laws have been applied to black mother who trying to protec

. >> brittany pack net cunningham, thank you as always for joining us. "the 11th hour" with brian williams starts right now. >>> good evening once again, day 309 of the biden administration, the three men charged in the killing of ahmaud arbery are going away having all been convicted of murder. their claim was they were protecting their community and acting in self-defense. on the second day of deliberations, this jury in brunswick, georgia, found them guilty in the shooting death of arbery as he jogged through their neighborhood. >> count one, malice murder. we the jury find the defendant travis mcmichael guilty. say his name ahmaud arbery! >> arbery's killing in february of 2020 would eventually become part of this country's larger reckoning with race and injustice. the case came under national scrutiny only because a cell phone video of the shooting emerged. arrest followed but the path to prosecution was marked by delays and allegations of misconduct. for months arbery's family pressed for action in this case. today that same family welcomed the ver

attorney, rachel paulus, barbara mcquade, former prosecutor, paul henderson, and brittany pat nick cunningham. ellis, i have to start with you. you're on scene. we just heard from the defense attorney who i assume spoke not too far from where you are now. what do you expect in the next hour or so. have we heard from everybody that we expect to hear from at this point? >> given that we just got that statement from the prosecutor, i would expect that that might be the extent of what we're going to hear, at least in the immediate future. i mean, you heard in that press conference, the defense being asked about whether or not people would hear from kyle rittenhouse. and he seemed to imply that maybe that would at least not be something happening in the immediate future. i can tell you, once the jury delivered their verdict, not guilty on all five counts, we watched as the girlfriend of the second man, kyle rittenhouse shot and killed that night, anthony huber, made her way out of the courthouse, escorted by police, in front of her, not too far down the ramp, as she was walking was one of his rela

joining me now is msnbc contributor and fellow at the harvard institute of politics, brittany pat nick cunninghame i'm thinking what kind of thoughtless, heartless, clueless person says they don't want black pastors in the courtroom? >> the kind of person who believes that a black pastor like reverend al is just as dangerous as a white man who decides to take it upon himself to kill an innocent jogger. this is the kind of theatrics that we can continue to expect to see because as i shared with zerlina maxwell on peacock the other night, there are only so many acceptable losses that white supremacy is willing to accept. so if derek chauvin is going to jail, you had best believe that people like kyle rittenhouse is going to be defended. they have to make sure that the message is set that white men will continue to control these systems and that the rest of us should be living in fear. >> it's kind of baffling to see. i want you to take a listen to sean hannity, martyr kyle rittenhouse, which is quite disgusting to see. take a look. >> when the then candidate now president of the united states and o