brittany kaiser is with us.is her first major interview since she has begun a major document leak. troves of documents about cameras analytica role. inin a moment we will ask her jn bolton and iran. john bolton has just that he will testify at an impeachment trial in the senate, which has turned its -- turn the senate on its head. and we're joined by emma briant who specializes in researching propaganda. her forthcoming book "propaganda machine ." to thisisten conversation, your work in cambridge analytica has been going on for a long time. can you relate what they were doing, also facebook, in manipulating popopulations as we ?ove into this current election is basicallywork psycychological operations? >> thank you, amy. i actually first came across the company scl, the parent company of cambridge analytica, and 2007 as part of my masters and doctoral researcrch. i've been following their techniques and how they evolved over the years. startedealized when i to discover the political work they were doing beyond t

and make a whistleblower brittany kaiser.only,, we speak to the directors ," which hast hack just been shortlisted for an academy award. ♪ [music break] amy: this is democracy now!, i'm amy goodman. we continue our lolook at facebook,analytica, and the roles and the 2016 election and other elections earlier this week, i spoke to the directors of "the great hack," jehane noujaim and karim amer, as well as emma briant and brittany kaiser. i asked karim amer to spspeak about suppressing the vote. >> it was important for us to show in the film the expansiveness of cambridge's work. this went beyond the borders of the u.s. and even beyond the borders of the eu and you pay. cambridge used in pursuing this global influence industry that they were very much a part of, they used different countries as petri dishes to learn and get the know-how about different tactics. and from improving those tactics, they could then sell them for a higher cost -- higher margin in western democracies, where the election budgets are, you know -- we hav

data privacy since the cambridge and i took a scandal with us to talk about this switzerland brittany kaiser co-founder of your data she was formerly the business development director of the kind but analytical and has written a book about her experiences as cohen targeted the cambridge analytical whistleblower as inside story of how big data trump on facebook brought democracy and how it can happen again she was also featured in the white hat which has been nominated for a bafta and so they stand for and osca but me how it's good to have you here that music in the great hat it was all miss doc images making us feel like we should be afraid when you were working with analytical what point did you get to where you thought this is not good for the public actually about lunch after the election i was given by all of my colleagues that had worked on the trump campaign and the trump super pac a 2 day long presentation of everything that was done in 20152016 especially to help a lot donald trump and i saw voter suppression tactics i saw racism and sexism being weaponized i saw incitement of violen