more effective it sounds like if i'm understanding you right mr brockman that you're saying that what we're seeing starting in bavaria this week these tighter restrictions that that is a model that maybe should be applied to all of germany if we want to see significant improvements. yes so all the contacts are still happening you know we have to reduce them and so we have to look at the places that have not been under the umbrella of the soft lockdown and so we have to reduce group size we tension we have to the day of christmas is coming up and so we have to potentially think about you know sort of carotene you know before the holiday stot we have to think about schools and you know and you know all the public transport shopping all of these things that apparently still drive the pandemic you mr brightman do you think that considering how bad the numbers are good right now is it still an option for people to visit their family for christmas this year or do we have to say maybe this year we have to not do that so that we can hopefully be able to do that in future years you know well t

more effective it sounds like if i'm understanding you right mr brockman that you're saying that what we're seeing starting in bavaria this week these tighter restrictions that that is a model that maybe should be applied to all of germany if we want to see significant improvements. yes so all the contacts that are still happening you know we have to reduce them and so we have to look at the places that have not been under the umbrella of the soft lockdown and so we have to reduce group size we have to the christmas is coming up and so we have to potentially think about you know sort of carotene you know before the holiday stot we have to think about schools and you know and you know all the public transport shopping all of these things that apparently still drive the pandemic you mr brightman do you think that considering how bad the numbers or bright nail is it still an option for people to visit their family for christmas this year or do we have to say maybe this year we have to not do that so that we can hopefully be able to do that in the future years you know well that is certai

construct computer models of infectious diseases at the robert coffee institute here in berlin mr brockman it's good to have you on the program what are your models telling you what will happen here in germany if we leave things as they are now. well it looks like and that's not only our models that tell the story but also models of other people in germany but also outside of germany that currently we need to get out of the stable situation where we have a high number of new cases every day and so apparently the measures that were put in place reduced context in germany only about 40 percent and you know in other countries that effectively stopped the 2nd wave of this was up at 60 percent also in germany during the 1st wave in the spring so we have to do more in germany they call the current measures walked white do you think we need something like a lock down heavy. or it looks like we do need something like this and in fact like many of the models that try to estimate the effects of these lockdown measures showed that intense and short. but very intense ones are more effective in reducin

more effective it sounds like if i'm understanding you right mr brockman that you're saying that what we're seeing starting in bavaria this week these tighter restrictions that that is a model that maybe should be applied to all of germany if we want to see significant improvements. yes so all the contacts that are still happening you know we have to reduce them and so we have to look at the places that have not been under the umbrella of the soft lockdown and so we have to reduce group size we tension we have to the christmas is coming up and so we have to potentially think about you know sort of carotene you know before the holiday stot we have to think about schools and you know and you know all the public transport shopping all of these things that apparently still drive the pandemic you mr brightman do you think that considering how bad the numbers are going to great now is it still an option for people to visit their family for christmas this year or do we have to say maybe this year we have to not do that so that we can hopefully be able to do that in future years you know well

more effective it sounds like if i'm understanding you right mr brockman that you're saying that what we're seeing starting in bavaria this week these tighter restrictions that that is a model that maybe should be applied to all of germany if we want to see significant improvements. yes so all the contacts that are still happening you know we have to reduce them and so we have to look at the places that have not been under the umbrella of the soft lockdown and so we have to reduce group size we have to the christmas is coming up and so we have to potentially think about you know sort of carotene you know before the holiday stot we have to think about schools and you know and you know all the public transport shopping all of these things that apparently still drive the pandemic you mr brightman do you think that considering how bad the numbers are good right now is it still an option for people to visit their family for christmas this year or do we have to say maybe this year we have to not do that so that we can hopefully be able to do that in future years you know well that is certai

>> here saint brockman, she is a firfirst walked woman to operata newspaper in the country and as a reporter, it made sense but also how she worked behind the scene to help women and how she used her ability to pass as a white women to turn around and help the black woman and help the groups that she was involved with and. off that newspaper as much as she did, editorialize and do as much as she did for a woman of color by using the fact that she passed and how like she was and how people did not actually question her bead in certain places or knowing certain things. she uses fascinating, is not something i learned in school and i definitely wanted to write about her. >> that is for sure it's interesting that she used to bridge that feels like fraud in some ways for the betterment overall. >> right, her mother was an english woman. she was white but she definitely identified with the work the black woman in this country were trained to do, she was aware that she was a rich upper class at the time she could afford expensive dresses that a lot of people could not but she definitely use that to