brockville, new york. david: then you went to high school in bronxville.ou were a three sport star. you were in football, basketball, baseball. and the captain of all three of those teams at your high school. you went to washington jefferson college in pennsylvania. roger: yes. david: when you graduated, you wrote your famous letter to the nfl. what were you doing when you were waiting to hear back from the nfl? were you working in a mcdonald's or something like that? roger: i wasn't. i took sometime after the summer after i graduated. i focused on what i wanted to do. i eventually because i did not hear back from the nfl in a positive way until february of the year after i graduated, i worked in the steel industry briefly. it was a good experience for me. i managed a training program. david: eventually you get the job at the nfl. you work for them. the commissioner was pete roselle who was the longest-serving commissioner. you are the second-longest serving. is that right? roger: that might be true. i hadn't thought about that. david: pete roselle became