guest: the 1.i was making is the quote -- the point i was making is from brooke justice kavanaugh ispeculation about the future which has no particular relation to the existing case law. he did not address it because alabama, even in its extreme arguments did not raise this question. it is of course true that some time in the future, the court might revise its interpretation of the voting rights act. i'm not in the business of speculating about what might happen sometime in the future. that is the tenor of justice kavanaugh's musing. host: you have history at the justice department, looking at the cases of civil rights and those that do will voting rights. talk about the history of yours. what has your work been on the subject and why are you interested? guest: i've been involved in voting rights led -- litigations in 1980 when i began serving as an expert witness in the two mobile cases on the supreme court after the court handed down the intent standard. in those days, cases of this nature, registered cases and other challenges to election practice were decided under the 14th amend