again, "the brookhisers were german catholics. my father's mother's maiden name was gleason, which wasn't irish but a respelling of claesgens, another german name. they tried to anglicize it, evidently, and didn't get it quite right. my mother's maiden name was stark, that's english. her mother's was quilhot, french protestant." what are we getting in richard brookhiser's ... >> guest: well, all i was trying to prove there was that i'm not writing this as an wasp myself. i mean, i'm not an andover, harvard, porcellian club graduate who's just writing about what he grew up with all his life. like most of the people in this country -- like the overwhelming majority of people in this country -- i'm not a wasp. i'm half; i'm not a full fledged one, literally speaking, although i think if you look at the way i live or the way i was raised, again, like the overwhelming majority of people in this country, i am a wasp by behavior, which is the most important thing about wasps. it's not who they are any longer, who they are literally. it's

the author is richard brookhiser and, among other things, he's a senior editor with national review. this is what the book looks like, and we thank you for joining us. >> guest: thank you. ..