we were founded by pete de beaumont who founded brookstone. brookstone was about practical tools, and we have taken that idea so de beaumont creates practical tools to help communities in the area, policy change, developing partnerships and creating a strong public health workforce. host: how is an organization like yours responding to the pandemic? guest: we have done work in messaging, supported partners and been very fortunate where we could health our partners at the association of state and territorial health officials and the very important association of public health labs. we were there to kind of support and lift morale among workers and really pitch in where we can. host: a year into this, almost a year, and yesterday marking 500,000 deaths due to the disease. what are your thoughts about the role of public health professionals and -- that they have played in the last 10 months. guest: i think public health professionals have thrown everything that they have at this virus and at the response. the problem is that we did not give them