these captions may be broughbro. it is not too far to realize why security and defense would require some secrecy. just as an important to our safety is the work done by the security and intelligence agencies. since 9/11, there has been one terrorist attack in britain leading to major loss of life. but those agencies have prevented a number of other tax which, in one case at least, -- of other attacks, which, in one case at least, would have led to others. the work of these agencies have to be secret. they cannot work if their forces and methods are exposed to public view. to be effective, diplomacy, too, sometimes requires confidentiality. the leak of state department cables -- >> do you think the people in this room have the right to know that un diplomats were being bugged by the u.s.? [applause] >> there is a lot that i can say about that. having worked at the un, i know that if i want information from a u.n. employee, i go and ask for it. usually, that you an employee gives it to me. they made fools of themselve