. >> after 17 years diane may be full of brovado, but she remembers how overwhelming it was to start up the business from scratch. >> when i came in knowing nothing about it, i literally got down on my hands and knees and gave the business to the lord and said, you have to walk me through this because i don't know what i'm doing. and he has been, you know, my support, my wings all the way through. >>> diane said in her case being a woman in a male-dominated industry either didn't matter or was a benefit for her. so when it comes to gender i base, does it exist? stella is the managing director of ladys who launch in new york city and new jersey. and jean marx is president of the marx group and small business columnist for "the new york times." great to see you both here. stella, you deal with female entrepreneurs, is there a gender bias when it comes to making money or being a manager? >> i think women do business differently, absolutely. but one of the biggest things i heard diane say is even her guys know how to listen to women. that's what it comes down to is really knowing your co